Russelldad Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I am having problems understanding the new cross-bracket playoff system. I have read several old posts and have looked at the KHSAA site, but when I click on links to the playoff format, it tells me they no longer exist or are broken. anyway, someone please help me understand this years playoff format? I know that we are no longer playing teams from our own district in the 1st two rounds this year and will be cross-bracketing from round 1. So does that mean we will not have a so-called district champion this year? I know that Russell is in 3A Region 1 district 7. So who will they cross-braket with this year in the 1st 2 rounds? If they are the top seed does that still give them the 1st two rounds at home? I guess I could go on, so I'll just make it easy. If someone could please layout the format for me I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much in advance
mcpapa Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I'll go out on a limb and say that Ram is your guy for the job. He has posted several times in the past on playoff brackets.
DragonFire Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 For 1A-5A it's right back where it used to be. So if your team is in 3A District 7, you'll be playing 3A District 8, just like you did before they messed with everything. The only class that is affected in a different way is 6A.
Ram Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 http://www.khsaa.org/football/playoffpairings.pdf
HDE Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 It's much, much, much better the way it is. We have regular season district champions again. We also have true regions again and fans will eventually learn again which district their district plays. It's a terrible marketing strategy to confuse your fans, which last year's system did.
Ram Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Russell is in District 3-7 Region 4. District 3-7 will meet District 3-8 in the first two rounds. The higher seed will be home, if like ranked teams meet the even number district will host. Seed 1 will play seed 4, seed 2 will play seed 3 in the first round, then the winners will play for Round 2. In round three the two teams left will play for the regional championship. Region 1 will then play Region 2, Region 3 will then play Region 4 for the semi-finals, with both winners going to the State Championship game.
Watusi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Ram is right on target. For discussion, lets say the two districts (7 & 8) finish like this: D7: 1-Russell, 2-Mason, 3-West Carter, 4-East Carter D8: 1-Belfry, 2-Sheldon Clark, 3-Pike Central, 4-Magoffin Co Then the playoffs would look like this Round 1 4 Magoffin Co @ 1 Russell 3 West Carter @ 2 Sheldon Clark 3 Pike Central @ 2 Mason Co 4 East Carter @ 1 Belfry Round 2 (Assuming higher seeds win) 2 Sheldon Clark @ 1 Russell 2 Mason Co @ 1 Belfry Round 3 (Assuming higher seeds win) Russell @ Belfry
Russelldad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Posted September 24, 2008 http://www.khsaa.org/football/playoffpairings.pdf I have looked at that link several times. According to the KHSAA website under where we look at scores it says that we are in region 1, but for district 7 to play district 8 the way I read that link we should be in region 4. Or is there a mistake on the Scoreboard link? Or am I reading that breakdown sheet wrong?
Russelldad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Posted September 24, 2008 Ram is right on target. For discussion, lets say the two districts (7 & 8) finish like this: D7: 1-Russell, 2-Mason, 3-West Carter, 4-East Carter D8: 1-Belfry, 2-Sheldon Clark, 3-Pike Central, 4-Magoffin Co Then the playoffs would look like this Round 1 4 Magoffin Co @ 1 Russell 3 West Carter @ 2 Sheldon Clark 3 Pike Central @ 2 Mason Co 4 East Carter @ 1 Belfry Round 2 (Assuming higher seeds win) 2 Sheldon Clark @ 1 Russell 2 Mason Co @ 1 Belfry Round 3 (Assuming higher seeds win) Russell @ Belfry Okay, I think I get it. But I wish they would stop messing with the playoff formats and class systems. If Russell and Belfry happen to both make it to round 4 it would be the 4th time in 5 years that Belfry gets to host that 4th round game. 2004 Russell at Belfry (mud bowl - last game at old Viperman) 2005 Belfry at Russell 2006 Russell at Belfry 2007 Breathitt at Belfry 2008 at Belfry
EKUAlum05 Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Okay, I think I get it. But I wish they would stop messing with the playoff formats and class systems. If Russell and Belfry happen to both make it to round 4 it would be the 4th time in 5 years that Belfry gets to host that 4th round game. 2004 Russell at Belfry (mud bowl - last game at old Viperman) 2005 Belfry at Russell 2006 Russell at Belfry 2007 Breathitt at Belfry 2008 at Belfry Belfry and Russell would meet in Round 3 this year. You are right that it doesn't quite seem fair that Belfry shuld host 4 of the last 5. And I don't recall Vipperman being muddy in 2004?!?!?!
3wishes Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Belfry and Russell would meet in Round 3 this year. You are right that it doesn't quite seem fair that Belfry shuld host 4 of the last 5. And I don't recall Vipperman being muddy in 2004?!?!?! I thought that Belfry's district would have to play Breathitt's district this year in round 4, but according to the KHSAA region 1 plays 2 and region 3 plays 4, however, both Breathitt's and Belfry's region is listed as 1st region. Is there a link showing the current format?
Watusi Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 You are right, 3W. Belfry's and Russell's region winner (Region 4) will play Breathitt's and Somerset's region winner (Region 3) in round 4. Current alignment for 2008 ( http://www.khsaa.org/football/alignment.pdf ) Belfry is in D8, Russell is in D7, Breathitt and Harlan Co are in D6, Somerset is in D5. CLASS 3A District-3-1- McLean County, Muhlenberg South, Paducah Tilghman, Union County, Webster County District-3-2- Adair County, Butler County, Edmonson County, Hart County, Russellville District-3-3- Central, Elizabethtown, Moore, Shawnee District-3-4- Henry County, North Oldham, Spencer County, Western Hills District-3-5- Casey County, Garrard County, Jackson County, Somerset, Taylor County, Wayne County District-3-6- Breathitt County, Cawood, Estill County, Fleming County, Powell County District-3-7- East Carter, Lewis County, Mason County, Russell, West Carter District-3-8- Belfry, East Ridge, Magoffin County, Pike County Central, Sheldon Clark And according to the http://www.khsaa.org/football/playoffpairings.pdf, the first three rounds of cross-bracketed playoffs are as follows: In Region 3, D5 plays D6 In Region 4, D7 plays D8 Region ---2008 3A-R1 ----D1 vs. D2 3A-R2 ----D3 vs. D4 3A-R3 ----D5 vs. D6 3A-R4 ----D7 vs. D8
3wishes Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Thanks Watusi, that is what I thought but when I saw the KHSAA had everyone in Region 1 I questioned myself. They need to fix that.
Russelldad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Posted September 24, 2008 Thanks Watusi, that is what I thought but when I saw the KHSAA had everyone in Region 1 I questioned myself. They need to fix that. Thank you 3W. That was what I was seeing too. It was really very confusing, which is what prompted me starting this thread in the first place. Thank goodness we got posters like Ram and Watusi to keep it straight
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