September 20, 200817 yr ?Are the polls trust worthy. Who commissions these pollos?.Who are these poll takers for in the election? NY Times/CBS - I wonder who they are for?????
September 20, 200817 yr ?Are the polls trust worthy. Who commissions these pollos?.Who are these poll takers for in the election? NY Times/CBS - I wonder who they are for????? :laugh:
September 21, 200817 yr Well it has already begun and Obama has not even lost the election yet. However I am sure if he does this is going to be the reason why... It will have nothing to do with people disagreeing with his policy/issues stances... http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race
September 21, 200817 yr Well it has already begun and Obama has not even lost the election yet. However I am sure if he does this is going to be the reason why... It will have nothing to do with people disagreeing with his policy/issues stances... http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race You don't see any truth in the article?
September 21, 200817 yr Among new polling numbers, Palin's favorability ratings tumble. Newsweek Article Now, I'm no partisan waging a war of rhetoric. I would, at least, hope that anyone who reads my posts would know that. But, I said Palin was a poor choice before McCain made it, wrung through the wringer on here when he made it and polls shot up, and I still think it was a bad decision that will probably cost John McCain the election. I still believe Obama wins this election but I don't think McCain's vice presidential pick will be the reason. People are placing too much emphasis on her. I can't remember a vp pick having an impact on an election. Shoot, if Quayle didn't cost Bush I the election why would you think Palin would have a major impact?
September 21, 200817 yr You don't see any truth in the article? Sounds like early excuse making to me. It cuts both ways. Approximately 75% to 80% of african americans have voted democrat in the last 10 presidential elections. Obama is currently estimated to get 92 to 95% of the african american vote. So are you telling me that the impact of the extra 17% to 20% of african american voters that are voting for Obama is going to be outweighed by bigots? I find it hard to believe that we have that many bigots in this country.
September 21, 200817 yr Author Well it has already begun and Obama has not even lost the election yet. However I am sure if he does this is going to be the reason why... It will have nothing to do with people disagreeing with his policy/issues stances... http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race I agree. That article is rubbish. It isn't statistically sound and makes a lame argument. I still believe Obama wins this election but I don't think McCain's vice presidential pick will be the reason. People are placing too much emphasis on her. I can't remember a vp pick having an impact on an election. Shoot, if Quayle didn't cost Bush I the election why would you think Palin would have a major impact? Well, the Quayle situation was much different. I mean, Dukakis, seriously? And don't forget how popular Reagan was. I have a terribly hard time believing McCain needed Palin to win. She is a steak to throw in the conservative dog cage. If anything, it has allowed McCain to beat back conservative attacks so he could run towards the center without conservatives railing on him. I think I see that now (I didn't include that in my initial assessment), especially since Republicans have seen a boost to their polls across the board (unusual if voters were running to Palin for any other reason than bringing right-wingers back into the vocal mix), although he is selling out to conservatives with her selection anyhow. Regardless, McCain has to go against the conservative standard if he wants to win this election, and he doesn't need the added deadweight Palin brings to the ticket to do it. She brought a nice bounce with her novelty and surprise, but now he's trailing again and she has nothing left but liability. It was a "Hail Mary."
September 21, 200817 yr Sounds like early excuse making to me. It cuts both ways. Approximately 75% to 80% of african americans have voted democrat in the last 10 presidential elections. Obama is currently estimated to get 92 to 95% of the african american vote. So are you telling me that the impact of the extra 17% to 20% of african american voters that are voting for Obama is going to be outweighed by bigots? I find it hard to believe that we have that many bigots in this country. It does cut both ways. I don't think that it will be the reason for the win/loss either way. However, we can't just ignore the fact that we do still have way too many bigots in our country. I have at least one uncle that has voted for the democratic candidate for the past 50 years. Why? The democratic agenda is closest to his philosophy. He will vote for McCain this time. Why? His own words...."I don't want a black man as my president."
September 22, 200817 yr I was looking at the latest electoral map, and it seems that many tossup states that I thought were starting to lean towards Obama are more closely contested. Places like Ohio, Missouri, New Hamshire, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, and Nevada are all dead even or show McCain with a slight advantage. This is going to come down to the very end, that's for sure. BTW, I'm still thinking we might actually see a tie. :scared:
September 22, 200817 yr I was looking at the latest electoral map, and it seems that many tossup states that I thought were starting to lean towards Obama are more closely contested. Places like Ohio, Missouri, New Hamshire, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, and Nevada are all dead even or show McCain with a slight advantage. This is going to come down to the very end, that's for sure. BTW, I'm still thinking we might actually see a tie. :scared: Life imitating art perhaps?
September 23, 200817 yr I was looking at the latest electoral map, and it seems that many tossup states that I thought were starting to lean towards Obama are more closely contested. Places like Ohio, Missouri, New Hamshire, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, and Nevada are all dead even or show McCain with a slight advantage. This is going to come down to the very end, that's for sure. BTW, I'm still thinking we might actually see a tie. :scared: Actually all those states Bush won in 2000, and I think all but NH went for him in 04, McCain leading is not too much of a surprise. Virgina, Colorado, Min, and Wisconsin are also going to be tight.
September 23, 200817 yr I was looking at the latest electoral map, and it seems that many tossup states that I thought were starting to lean towards Obama are more closely contested. Places like Ohio, Missouri, New Hamshire, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, and Nevada are all dead even or show McCain with a slight advantage. This is going to come down to the very end, that's for sure. BTW, I'm still thinking we might actually see a tie. :scared: a) - Has no one moved to or from Florida in the last 8 years?:eek: b) - Agreed. Only 10 days until that "surprise" month. Wonder if there will be a significant one this time around.
September 23, 200817 yr Actually all those states Bush won in 2000, and I think all but NH went for him in 04, McCain leading is not too much of a surprise. Virgina, Colorado, Min, and Wisconsin are also going to be tight. I know Bush won them in 2000 and 04, I was merely pointing out that not too long ago those states seemed to be starting to lean towards Obama, and now McCain is either dead even or leading in them. The more and more I look at the map, the more worried I am that we are going to have a tie. Based on CNN's projections, assuming all the leaning states go towards their respective candidate, Obama is up 223 to 200 with 9 states up for grabs. I see McCain winning Ohio, Florida, Virginia and Colorado with Obama taking Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, and Nevada. The result? 269-269
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