September 7, 200818 yr Especially since we are not allowed to compare Obama to JFK or Lincoln, having similar political experience. :lol: Surely you're not suggesting Obama has similar politcal experience to JFK? Kennedy served 6 years in congress and 8 in the senate before running for president.
September 7, 200818 yr Surely you're not suggesting Obama has similar politcal experience to JFK? Kennedy served 6 years in congress and 8 in the senate before running for president. With Kennedy it is more of the age comparison, in addition to not having any executive experience.
September 7, 200818 yr Comparing Palin to Wilson makes very little sense....as does comparing Obama to JFK, or Abraham Lincoln, but it happens. :lol:
September 7, 200818 yr :lol: Wilson was an academic who studied politics and government. In fact, the idealism of his foreign policy reflected his academic roots. Having "only two years of experience in elected office" did not make him any less well versed in foreign policy or politics. Comparing Palin to Wilson makes very little sense.:lol: It makes perfect sense. Popular two-year governor to popular two-year governor. I agree with Sowell, studying foreign policy is much different than making it and executing it. "The big divide in this country is not between Democrats and Republicans, or women and men, but between talkers and doers." - Thomas Sowell Palin and McCain have been doers throughout their careers. Obama and Biden are better known as talkers. That is why they talk so much in the future tense because their actual accomplishments, besides winning elections, are very modest. Like Palin, Wilson was a doer. Both were two-year state governors when they first ran for national office.
September 7, 200818 yr With Kennedy it is more of the age comparison, in addition to not having any executive experience.JFK was a war hero who commanded a PT boat in the South Pacific. That means that he had more executive experience that Obama and Biden combined. Kennedy had made life and death decisions for himself and others before he ran for his first public office.
September 7, 200818 yr :lol: It makes perfect sense. Popular two-year governor to popular two-year governor. I agree with Sowell, studying foreign policy is much different than making it and executing it. Palin and McCain have been doers throughout their careers. Obama and Biden are better known as talkers. That is why they talk so much in the future tense because their actual accomplishments, besides winning elections, are very modest. Like Palin, Wilson was a doer. Both were two-year state governors when they first ran for national office. And Americans knew what Wilson's foreign and economic policies were. Americans know what McCains are. Americans know what Obama's are. Americans know what Biden's are. Palin's? Throw a dart at a board of a list of adjectives. But, the comparison of Palin to Wilson is especially incongruous.
September 7, 200818 yr And Americans knew what Wilson's foreign and economic policies were. Americans know what McCains are. Americans know what Obama's are. Americans know what Biden's are. Palin's? Throw a dart at a board of a list of adjectives. But, the comparison of Palin to Wilson is especially incongruous.Do you honestly believe that in the days before commercial radio that most Americans knew Woodrow Wilson's views on foreign policy and economics before he ran for the presidency? What percentage of modern American voters do you believe can name a single college president? Seriously...
September 7, 200818 yr Do you honestly believe that in the days before commercial radio that most Americans knew Woodrow Wilson's views on foreign policy and economics before he ran for the presidency? What percentage of modern American voters do you believe can name a single college president? Seriously... So Americans used to vote on good sounding names? Blind intuition? No matter, the point of your comparison is to say that those two years in elected office are the reason Wilson was the President he was, and that just doesn't hold logically. Palin may turn out to be a diamond in the rough in international affairs or economics, but there is absolutely no way you can make that determination right now, given we haven't an utterance from her on FP or the economy.
September 7, 200818 yr I would really like a Palin apologist to comment on the fact that Palin just got her first passport last year. Anyone? Anyone?
September 7, 200818 yr So Americans used to vote on good sounding names? Blind intuition? No matter, the point of your comparison is to say that those two years in elected office are the reason Wilson was the President he was, and that just doesn't hold logically. No that was not the point of the comparison. My point is that Wilson had the same experience in statewide office as Palin does. People having far more experience than Wilson have made far worse presidents. The American people did not disqualify Wilson based on his relative inexperience, they judged him on the campaign trail. That is where Palin will be judged. Palin may turn out to be a diamond in the rough in international affairs or economics, but there is absolutely no way you can make that determination right now, given we haven't an utterance from her on FP or the economy.Ronald Reagan had no foreign policy experience when he entered office and most people agree that his policies were instrumental in winning the Cold War. Sarah Palin has proven to be a skilled negotiator and a shrewd judge of people and those are skills that our great presidents of the past have shared. You are greatly overestimating the value of Senate experience and ignoring Palin's obvious assets. I am not convinced that Biden will even win the foreign policy portion of the debate with Palin. She may very well be able to force Biden to defend some of blunders that he has made during his long, long career as a Washington insider. If that happens, then there is no telling what kind of gaffes Biden will make. As he has admitted, he tends to exaggerate when he gets angry. Obama was not thinking clearly when he picked Biden as his running mate. He should have gone with a Washington outsider to reenforce his campaign's change theme. McCain and Palin are taking the change theme away from Obama by talking about the changes that they have already made.
September 7, 200818 yr I would really like a Palin apologist to comment on the fact that Palin just got her first passport last year. Anyone? Anyone?That is going to be a huge issue in this campaign. Palin has not been on any taxpayer paid junkets and has only visited Alaskan National Guard troops serving in the Middle East. Who vetted this woman and failed to uncover this devastating fact? :lol:
September 7, 200818 yr That is going to be a huge issue in this campaign. Palin has not been on any taxpayer paid junkets and has only visited Alaskan National Guard troops serving in the Middle East. Who vetted this woman and failed to uncover this devastating fact? :lol: You can laugh if you want, but to me that says she has no firsthand knowledge of much except her cold, dark corner of the Earth. I want my president and VP to be well-traveled and culturally aware. It seems to me that Palin is neither.
September 7, 200818 yr You can laugh if you want, but to me that says she has no firsthand knowledge of much except her cold, dark corner of the Earth. I want my president and VP to be well-traveled and culturally aware. It seems to me that Palin is neither.Nancy Pelosi. Harry Reid, John Murtha, Joe Biden, Charles Rangel, Chuck Schumer, Lindsey Graham, Chuck Hagel, Barbara Boxer, and Maxine Walters are all well traveled and I would not want any of them to be president. Having a passport and luggage with a bunch of stickers from around the world is not high on my list of qualifications for POTUS or VP. Heck, using your yardstick, Jimmy Carter is ripe to serve a second term. :lol:
September 7, 200818 yr The American people did not disqualify Wilson based on his relative inexperience, they judged him on the campaign trail. That is where Palin will be judged. That has been my contention from the beginning and exactly why I raise this point. Palin has less than 60 days to make that case and she is currently not accepting questions.
September 7, 200818 yr Nancy Pelosi. Harry Reid, John Murtha, Joe Biden, Charles Rangel, Chuck Schumer, Lindsey Graham, Chuck Hagel, Barbara Boxer, and Maxine Walters are all well traveled and I would not want any of them to be president. Having a passport and luggage with a bunch of stickers from around the world is not high on my list of qualifications for POTUS or VP. Heck, using your yardstick, Jimmy Carter is ripe to serve a second term. :lol: That argument holds no water. That list could continue on, and that's fine, but I want people who ARE running for President not to be ignorant of world affairs and I want them to be well traveled. Again, Palin does not meet this criteria.
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