Alot of teams have gone to the pass first offense. I know teams that can mix in the run succesfully have done well with this. I'm just curious of how many teams that almost rely on it 100% have won state championships. The Bardstown teams of the mid and late 90's come to mind. I was at a game where they had a commanding lead, but ended up losing mostly because they refused to run the ball, of course Danville made one heck of a come back. Bardstown couldn't kill clock with the pasiing game.

1 Breathitt County 2001, 1996 and 1995

 

Other than that no one except Elizabethtown (2003) comes to mind in the past decade that has even been runner up and was actually in the game.

 

I guess an argument could be made for Trinity, even though they do run some, I would venture to guess they pass the ball 90% of the time, either down field or with a screen pass.

Breathitt did have a good running game all three times they did win state. But they did rely heavily on the pass.

Breathitt did have a good running game all three times they did win state. But they did rely heavily on the pass.

 

Actually in 2002 Breathitt had no RB gain more than 400 yards while the QB had a 1,000 yards rushing. My guess is a lot of those yards came off of lanes opened by the passing threat.

Your correct. Justin would see lanes that would open up while a pass play was called. But they did have a rushing game, even if it was the qb

Bottom line, it is very difficult to do in high school unless you have an elite talent at the QB position. It always kills me to see some teams attempt to pass the ball when they do not need to. I have seen coaches totally dominate a team up front, can run the ball all day long, but fill they have the throw the ball and lose ball games. I have never understood it.

 

Too many variables. As the saying goes, (paraphrasing here) "When you throw a pass, only three things can happen, and two of them are bad." Also, the ability to control the clock is out of the question.

 

I have coached and been around too long to know that it is difficult to find a collection of kids that can catch and to have someone adequate to get them the ball through the air. It is not a coincidence the number is so low for teams that have won a title the rely primarily on the pass.

1 Breathitt County 2001, 1996 and 1995

 

Other than that no one except Elizabethtown (2003) comes to mind in the past decade that has even been runner up and was actually in the game.

 

I guess an argument could be made for Trinity, even though they do run some, I would venture to guess they pass the ball 90% of the time, either down field or with a screen pass.

 

I would actually be surprised if the Rocks were more than 60/40 pass/run & maybe not even that high. no stats to back that up, just a gut feeling...

The simple truth is, no matter what level you are on, high school, college, or even the NFL, you have to have a running game to win championships. You can be a pass oriented team, but to win you have to be able to run as well. Every NFL, college, and high school team that are big game winners do it. There is a time to run and time to pass, you have to be able to do both.

Offense sells tickets - defense wins games.

1 Breathitt County 2001, 1996 and 1995

 

Other than that no one except Elizabethtown (2003) comes to mind in the past decade that has even been runner up and was actually in the game.

 

I guess an argument could be made for Trinity, even though they do run some, I would venture to guess they pass the ball 90% of the time, either down field or with a screen pass.

 

 

Tim Phillips, our RB had over 1800 yards last year. We are not strictly a passing team.

How many carries did it take him to get those yards, I'd say not many and did any other RB have any significant yardage? I'm just asking, I see Trinity place twice a year and it just seems the overall majority of thier plays are downfield passes or screen plays. They do a lot of delayed draws though.

Tim Phillips, our RB had over 1800 yards last year. We are not strictly a passing team.

Did he seriously have over 800 yards in their final 5 games? Because he had just 1,032 at the end of the regular season, ten games.

 

I did notice that Trinity averaged 116 ypg rushing and 260 ypg passing, so I retract my statements. I guess they just make the pass look more effective...

Did he seriously have over 800 yards in their final 5 games? Because he had just 1,032 at the end of the regular season, ten games.

 

I did notice that Trinity averaged 116 ypg rushing and 260 ypg passing, so I retract my statements. I guess they just make the pass look more effective...

 

 

Now that I look at it, I think that those were his total yards. I do know that he had over 1200 rushing though last season.

Cov Cath 2006?

How many carries did it take him to get those yards, I'd say not many and did any other RB have any significant yardage? I'm just asking, I see Trinity place twice a year and it just seems the overall majority of thier plays are downfield passes or screen plays. They do a lot of delayed draws though.

Here is Trinity's breakdown for its State Championship years:

 

2007 Rushing 406, passing 403

2006 Rushing 419, passing 292

2005 Rushing 418, passing 344

2003 Rushing 404, passing 478

2002 Rushing 438, passing 354

2001 Rushing 432, passing 286