August 24, 200818 yr No need. I think that the baby killing issue will be enough to sway quite a few moderates to vote against Obama. The one or two issue voters are already going to vote for McCain...
August 24, 200818 yr The one or two issue voters are already going to vote for McCain...What percentage of Americans do you believe strongly oppose infanticide? The US Senate voted 98-0 in favor of the federal version BAIPA, which Obama voted against. Do you honestly believe that average Americans will not be appalled by Obama's failure to act to protect newborn babies? This is not an abortion issue.
August 24, 200818 yr Does the fact that Biden is a plagiarist bother you at all? Does the fact that McCain is a complete sell out bother you at all? Ever heard of the Keating 5? McCain has a lot of baggage...
August 24, 200818 yr Does the fact that McCain is a complete sell out bother you at all? Ever heard of the Keating 5? McCain has a lot of baggage...If you are familiar with my attacks on McCain during the primaries, then you know that I am bothered by some of McCain's baggage. However, as far as I know there were no convicted organized crime figures involved in the purchase of any of his family's properties. People get plagiarism - it is a relatively minor offense but Obama got caught not once but twice. He is a slow learner who has told some whoppers during his career. Biden may also be the worst money manager ever to be on a national ticket. His net worth is somewhere between minus $303,000 and (+)$278,000 - not exactly the right guy to be lecturing anybody on the budget deficit.
August 24, 200818 yr People get plagiarism - it is a relatively minor offense but Obama got caught not once but twice. So did McCain. And his wife. You can't win this one. Move on to another topic that makes more sense.
August 24, 200818 yr So did McCain. And his wife. You can't win this one. Move on to another topic that makes more sense.Thanks, but I will pick topics that interest me. If they make no sense to you, then I suggest you move on to another topic. Biden's plagiarism forced him to retake a class in law school and it forced him to withdraw from a presidential race in which he had been running a strong campaign. That issue, combined with his long windedness and tendency to fabricate and exaggerate will not play well with honest voters.
August 24, 200818 yr Thanks, but I will pick topics that interest me. If they make no sense to you, then I suggest you move on to another topic. Biden's plagiarism forced him to retake a class in law school and it forced him to withdraw from a presidential race in which he had been running a strong campaign. That issue, combined with his long windedness and tendency to fabricate and exaggerate will not play well with honest voters. I don't think plaigerism is a main topic in the election. If it is, our country is in trouble. Spin it how you want, but McCain got busted for the same things you accuse Obama of. What's next?
August 24, 200818 yr I don't think plaigerism is a main topic in the election. If it is, our country is in trouble. Spin it how you want, but McCain got busted for the same things you accuse Obama of. What's next?No, McCain did not get caught lifting somebody else's stump speech almost verbatum and if he got caught plagiarizing at the Naval Academy, then he would have been expelled. If you have information to the contrary, then please post something to beck up your allegation.
August 24, 200818 yr No, he's not. He is one of the few senators that is not wealthy. I would like to know what is your standard for being rich? While most senators have more money than Obama, given that Obama made over a million dollars last year, that would count him among the rich in my book. Either way, I find the transparent attempt at class envy on the part of the Obama campaign dissappointing and not consistent with Obama's pledge to run a different kind of campaign.
August 24, 200818 yr No, McCain did not get caught lifting somebody else's stump speech almost verbatum and if he got caught plagiarizing at the Naval Academy, then he would have been expelled. If you have information to the contrary, then please post something to beck up your allegation. Speech on Georgia, taken from wikipedia http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_investigates_claim_McCain_plagiarized_speech_from_Wikipedia McCain pretty much copied Obama's campiagn theme http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/06/05/cnn-picks-mccain-plagiarism-story-huffpost-daily-kos Cross in the sand story? http://www.watchblog.com/democrats/archives/006110.html Cindy McCain's so-called family recipe. I guess Rachel Ray is her sister now. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-weiner/mccain-family-recipes-lif_b_96666.html
August 24, 200818 yr And that's without really digging hard. Again, it spins both ways. Both are guilty. What's next?
August 24, 200818 yr I would like to know what is your standard for being rich? While most senators have more money than Obama, given that Obama made over a million dollars last year, that would count him among the rich in my book. Either way, I find the transparent attempt at class envy on the part of the Obama campaign dissappointing and not consistent with Obama's pledge to run a different kind of campaign. Biden is not wealthy by almost any measure. Despite being the recipient of some very questionable and very favorable credit terms, he most likely has still managed to have a negative net worth, even though he lives in what most of us consider a mansion. He lives well above his means and he earns a pretty good salary as a US Senator.
August 24, 200818 yr Biden may also be the worst money manager ever to be on a national ticket. His net worth is somewhere between minus $303,000 and (+)$278,000 - not exactly the right guy to be lecturing anybody on the budget deficit. I don't see those numbers here. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ivD75Of6JQzDRixNbfD-4VP9CCzQD92OEDL80
August 24, 200818 yr Biden is not wealthy by almost any measure. Despite being the recipient of some very questionable and very favorable credit terms, he most likely has still managed to have a negative net worth, even though he lives in what most of us consider a mansion. He lives well above his means and he earns a pretty good salary as a US Senator. But didn't RTS say that he is a very rich man? I'm confused...
August 24, 200818 yr Speech on Georgia, taken from wikipedia http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_investigates_claim_McCain_plagiarized_speech_from_Wikipedia The facts match but this is certainly a stretch to call this a case of plagiarism. McCain pretty much copied Obama's campiagn theme http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/06/05/cnn-picks-mccain-plagiarism-story-huffpost-daily-kos "A leader we can believe in" is a response to "Change that you can believe in." Neither slogan is particularly witty. Cross in the sand story? http://www.watchblog.com/democrats/archives/006110.html Fellow POW Bud Day has confirmed that McCain told him the story soon after it happened in Hanoi. Of course, McCain and Day could both be lying or maybe they had read an account of the cross story and the brutal beatings that they endured simply caused them to mis-remember the event. Cindy McCain's so-called family recipe. I guess Rachel Ray is her sister now. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-weiner/mccain-family-recipes-lif_b_96666.html :lol::lol::lol: Has the left sunk so low as to claim the potential First Lady's cookie recipes are not original creations from the McCain family kitchen? The kooks at Huffington Post are taking the Democrats' "everybody does it" defense to a new level. :lol:
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