That's a very strong point that worries me very much. Can moderate Republicans such as McCain and Bush count on the conservative vote because of the left-wingers that the Democrats are supporting?

 

It scares me that us conservatives may lose our voice, if this were the case.

 

 

I do not consider myself a liberal, by any means. However, I have felt, for the last 8 years, that people like me have lost our voice. It's been extremely frustrating, these last 8 years. The tide has turned to the point that even those who are in the middle are shouted down by the conservatives. It's been the people in the middle who've suffered being labled as "left" and derided for our views, even when the views we espouse could in no way be seen as hard core left. I would welcome with untold joy, an administration that is tempered, willing to work bipartisanly (is that even a word?), and try a hand at compromise, with real effort to solve the issues at hand. I think that both McCain and Obama have show flashes of that. I'm leaning really hard toward Obama, donated to his campaign, but I don't think I'll be crushed if McCain winds up winning the Presidency.

That's not true. Not only has Kentucky voted for Democrats in the recent past, Obama actually has polled well here- the latest Rasmussen poll for Kentucky shows a VERY competitive race. I would still call McCain a heavy favorite in this state, but Obama is a lot closer than I would have expected.

 

Not for nothing, Obama from the beginimg picked up Dean's 50 state strategy, and his war chest means that McCain and the Republicans have to defend some home turf that they aren't used to protecting.

If McCain is a heavy favorite in this state then how is it a VERY competitve race?

I do not consider myself a liberal, by any means. However, I have felt, for the last 8 years, that people like me have lost our voice. It's been extremely frustrating, these last 8 years. The tide has turned to the point that even those who are in the middle are shouted down by the conservatives. It's been the people in the middle who've suffered being labled as "left" and derided for our views, even when the views we espouse could in no way be seen as hard core left.

While I believe that conservatives have it right on most issues, I find that conservatives are the hardest people in the world to agree with because they (to be honest) are so condescending and arrogant, which also makes them hard to disagree with, which makes them just unbearable at times. Myself included.

I would welcome with untold joy, an administration that is tempered, willing to work bipartisanly (is that even a word?), and try a hand at compromise, with real effort to solve the issues at hand. I think that both McCain and Obama have show flashes of that. I'm leaning really hard toward Obama, donated to his campaign, but I don't think I'll be crushed if McCain winds up winning the Presidency.

Rockmom, I disagree with you here because I feel like this similar to when people say that the Christians (Catholic, Protestants), Jews, Muslims, and other religions should work hard to agree on more. Should we (as Catholics) compromise the Truth for unity?

 

I'd like to see some compromises in DC as well, but there are certain issues that I believe can not be compromised. So I am not as willing to welcome bipartisanity (I like this word better :jump:) because there are certain things that I believe should not be compromised.

While I believe that conservatives have it right on most issues, I find that conservatives are the hardest people in the world to agree with because they (to be honest) are so condescending and arrogant, which also makes them hard to disagree with, which makes them just unbearable at times. Myself included.

 

Rockmom, I disagree with you here because I feel like this similar to when people say that the Christians (Catholic, Protestants), Jews, Muslims, and other religions should work hard to agree on more. Should we (as Catholics) compromise the Truth for unity?

 

I'd like to see some compromises in DC as well, but there are certain issues that I believe can not be compromised. So I am not as willing to welcome bipartisanity (I like this word better :jump:) because there are certain things that I believe should not be compromised.

 

We can agree on some things :thumb: :lol:.

We can agree on some things :thumb: :lol:.

I am just happy that you didn't bold the part where I said "myself included" :lol:

Polls of registered voters tend to be much less accurate than polls of likely voters. Newsweek's polls are often out of step with those conducted by more reliable pollsters.

I am just happy that you didn't bold the part where I said "myself included" :lol:

 

Unlike some other conservatives I have talked to, I do not find you condescending or arrogant at all.

Unlike some other conservatives I have talked to, I do not find you condescending or arrogant at all.

 

Just another thing you are wrong on......:sssh:

While I believe that conservatives have it right on most issues, I find that conservatives are the hardest people in the world to agree with because they (to be honest) are so condescending and arrogant, which also makes them hard to disagree with, which makes them just unbearable at times. Myself included.

You are not hard to agree or disagree with. At least you're respectful.

Rockmom, I disagree with you here because I feel like this similar to when people say that the Christians (Catholic, Protestants), Jews, Muslims, and other religions should work hard to agree on more. Should we (as Catholics) compromise the Truth for unity?

IMO, it's two different animals. And, Christians, Jews and Muslims do come together at times in unity, regardless of their differences. There are no preconditions set on discussion of issues and ways to work together to resolve them.

I'd like to see some compromises in DC as well, but there are certain issues that I believe can not be compromised. So I am not as willing to welcome bipartisanity (I like this word better :jump:) because there are certain things that I believe should not be compromised.

What is an example on which there can be no compromise?

 

IMO, it's two different animals. And, Christians, Jews and Muslims do come together at times in unity, regardless of their differences. There are no preconditions set on discussion of issues and ways to work together to resolve them.

What is an example on which there can be no compromise?

1. With religion, I am talking about "changing" core beliefs just to have a unified religion, or where people expect those of different faiths to ignore their differences for the sake of unity. I may not be explaining myself well. Furthermore, I am undecided on the issue of preconditions for talking with terrorists- I can understand both sides.

 

2. For example, I feel like McCain would be willing to, say, increase welfare benefits substantially to get more money for the troops. While I want to support the troops, I know the horrible effect that humongous welfare benefits would have on the economy. McCain's priorities are different than mine, and I feel like he would compromise on things very important to me.

 

I am not all against compromise- a lot of the compromises provided by Hearsay in his thread on strengthening the dollar. But, right now, an over willingness to pursue bipartisanship is not big on my list of desirable qualities.

Curious...what makes you think so? Donations to Obama's campaign are much greater in Kentucky than those to McCain's by Kentuckians. I know it's not a poll, but it must indicate strong support in Kentucky, right?

 

Please show me one statewide poll that has Obama even close to McCain. I don't care how much money he raises, he will not win the popular vote in Kentucky. Most Kentuckians are like me, too conservative to let a liberal socialist win this state. Just one man's humble opinion.

Please show me one statewide poll that has Obama even close to McCain. I don't care how much money he raises, he will not win the popular vote in Kentucky. Most Kentuckians are like me, too conservative to let a liberal socialist win this state. Just one man's humble opinion.

 

 

I don't have any polls, I was just asking. :lol: I believe it was 02Ram who pointed out that McCain was leading in a recent poll. I did mention that Obama had raised more contributions from Kentuckians than McCain, which I found interesting. IMO, it's really too early to determine which will win.

I don't have any polls, I was just asking. :lol: I believe it was 02Ram who pointed out that McCain was leading in a recent poll. I did mention that Obama had raised more contributions from Kentuckians than McCain, which I found interesting. IMO, it's really too early to determine which will win.

 

You are 100% correct on one point, it's too early to determine who will win the White House, although I fear it will not be McCain but I will be totally shocked if he does not win Kentucky.

I would say this. If its even remotely close for Obama in KY, Mr. McCain is done.

Please tell me why you and so many other people seem to be so enchanted with Richardson? I cannot find anything bout him that I like. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

 

 

They definately injected you with some kind of GOP juice while you were in the hospital. :lol: