June 8, 200818 yr It has been covered in other threads. Try searching the forum. In a nutshell, those who put the ANWR in terms of months or years of total US consumption are being deliberately misleading. When supply and demand of any commodity are closely matched, a relatively small increase or decrease in supply can have a substantial impact on prices. Production from ANWR will be stretched out over several decades once production begins, at a rate of between 800,000 and one million barrels per day. What the people who spout the statistics that you cited want you to forget is that domestic oil production declines every year because oil companies are barred from developing new oil fields. The supply is shrinking and the demand is growing. The production from ANWR will have an impact on prices. If nothing else, the added production will slow the rate of increase of global oil prices. I think that there are at least two previous threads dealing with ANWR. I started at least one of them, which contains comments by Sen. Schumer and a couple of maps showing the actual section of ANWR in which oil reserves would be developed. Also, all of the reserves could not be pumped from ANWR and put in a pipeline in a two-year period. It is not possible and pumping at too high of a rate can actually reduce the overall recovery of reserves, which is economically and environmentally irresponsible. Lord knows we never cover the same topic twice in this forum and we dont' repeat ourselves! :lol: The source of my stats was wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANWR
June 9, 200818 yr It's like putting a band aid on a big wound. It would give us short term relief until we can find a serious alternative source. More and more hybrids are getting ready to boom on the market within the next 5 years. The entire auto industry is drastically changing to counteract gas prices. Someone has a car coming out in 2010 I believe where the first 40 miles its solely electric, no gas needed. We need help now and into the near future or we will be in one recession after another. America cannot afford 3-5 dollar gas with our infrastructure and lack of pubic transport. You are soooooo correct. Don't see any relief in sight. Both parties want to blame the other and no one is developing solutions to our problems.
June 9, 200818 yr You are soooooo correct. Don't see any relief in sight. Both parties want to blame the other and no one is developing solutions to our problems. Tell me about it... however, I actually think the Dems are gonna let them drill after we past 4.50 a gallon.
June 9, 200818 yr Author Lord knows we never cover the same topic twice in this forum and we dont' repeat ourselves! :lol: The source of my stats was wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANWR I was not criticizing you for asking the question. I provided quite a bit of detail in the previous threads and was just trying to save myself some typing. Until I stumbled upon and posted two maps, I had no idea of the size or location of the oil reserves within ANWR and I think that many people might feel differently about this issue if they understood what a small area is at issue and its close proximity to Prudehoe Bay.
June 9, 200818 yr We deserve $15 a gallon prices for the stupid, shortsighted way this country was designed, and the stupid, shortsighted way we conduct our foreign (and foreign economic) policy. Oh yeah, that and the accompanying stupid, unnecessary vehicles we drive.
June 9, 200818 yr The History Channel's new season of Ice Road Truckers was on last night. The truckers are hauling equipment to what I understand is a new natural gas field 200 miles north of the Artic Circle in Canada. Why can't we open up a new oil field in Alaska? Are the Canadians destroying the environment or they working in a responsible manner to get the natural gas and protect the environment at the same time?
June 9, 200818 yr The History Channel's new season of Ice Road Truckers was on last night. The truckers are hauling equipment to what I understand is a new natural gas field 200 miles north of the Artic Circle in Canada. Why can't we open up a new oil field in Alaska? Are the Canadians destroying the environment or they working in a responsible manner to get the natural gas and protect the environment at the same time? My guess, well my only logical answer to that is that Wash and Congress will lose money if we drill. Because there is NO other logical reason as to why we are not drilling.
June 9, 200818 yr My guess, well my only logical answer to that is that Wash and Congress will lose money if we drill. Because there is NO other logical reason as to why we are not drilling. If the Democrat controlled Congress allows drilling in ANWR, they lose a very vocal part of their party's support- the environmentalists. And the Congresspeople would not be re-elected, so they would lose their status and jobs, so yes, it is about money.
June 9, 200818 yr I was not criticizing you for asking the question. I provided quite a bit of detail in the previous threads and was just trying to save myself some typing. Until I stumbled upon and posted two maps, I had no idea of the size or location of the oil reserves within ANWR and I think that many people might feel differently about this issue if they understood what a small area is at issue and its close proximity to Prudehoe Bay. AcesFull, I did look up the info provided in previous posts. Thank you. However, I still don't see this being the answer to our energy problems. To me this is a minor detail that could make a small difference in years ahead, once the oil can be mined and processed. We have got to put more emphasis on non-oil energy sources.
June 9, 200818 yr AcesFull, I did look up the info provided in previous posts. Thank you. However, I still don't see this being the answer to our energy problems. To me this is a minor detail that could make a small difference in years ahead, once the oil can be mined and processed. We have got to put more emphasis on non-oil energy sources. The only true answer is to get off oil in the very near future... and if you can tell me how, I will make you a billionaire.... Until then we need a lot more oil.
June 10, 200818 yr The only true answer is to get off oil in the very near future... and if you can tell me how, I will make you a billionaire.... Until then we need a lot more oil. Has anyone heard of the new distilled water add-on that you use in your existing vehicle that increases your gas mileage? Some one was just telling me about it today. Their brother-in-law has a big diesel truck and recently put this on and has been getting 40+ mpg. Someone else I talked to said that something negative about came out in Consumer Reports. That's all I have...anyone else?
June 12, 200818 yr An Alsakan govt official on the radio a month back said a few interesting things. 1) she said there isn't a lot of oil in Anwar to begin with, and 2) when they begin taking oil out of Anwar, that oil will be going to Japan because they'll pay more. It's still oil going into the worldwide pool so to speak, and prices may fall because of it, but that oil won't be going to the lower 48. She said gas prices in the wild areas (where they are currently drilling) are $10-12 right now!! I thought that was interesting too. That's right where it comes out of the ground.
June 12, 200818 yr An Alsakan govt official on the radio a month back said a few interesting things. 1) she said there isn't a lot of oil in Anwar to begin with, and 2) when they begin taking oil out of Anwar, that oil will be going to Japan because they'll pay more. It's still oil going into the worldwide pool so to speak, and prices may fall because of it, but that oil won't be going to the lower 48. She said gas prices in the wild areas (where they are currently drilling) are $10-12 right now!! I thought that was interesting too. That's right where it comes out of the ground. Even if it is going to Japan, it is still money being brought into this country.
June 12, 200818 yr An Alsakan govt official on the radio a month back said a few interesting things. 1) she said there isn't a lot of oil in Anwar to begin with, and 2) when they begin taking oil out of Anwar, that oil will be going to Japan because they'll pay more. It's still oil going into the worldwide pool so to speak, and prices may fall because of it, but that oil won't be going to the lower 48. She said gas prices in the wild areas (where they are currently drilling) are $10-12 right now!! I thought that was interesting too. That's right where it comes out of the ground. Where it comes out of the ground is not where it is refined into gasoline.
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