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Since theGuru closed the previous thread and says we can't use the "name" of a certain player from Mason", I wanted to start another one to get my question answered.

 

My previous question was can anyone show the excerpts from the KHSAA rule book regarding the action that this "un-named" player took in the semi-final game? I would like to see the specifics that they based their decision on.

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Since theGuru closed the previous thread and says we can't use the "name" of a certain player from Mason", I wanted to start another one to get my question answered.

 

My previous question was can anyone show the excerpts from the KHSAA rule book regarding the action that this "un-named" player took in the semi-final game? I would like to see the specifics that they based their decision on.

 

Not sure the situation in this one, but I know Somerset had a similar altercation earlier in the season and the boy that came off the bench(who did not throw a punch or anything just got off the bench) was not able to play the next game..

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It will be interesting to see how much pressure the KHSAA gets on this. Consistency of discipline is important in any activity. Knowing what has happened in previous situations is not only interesting but critical.

 

I am not that familiar with the KHSAA specific rules on this, that is why I am asking. I know at the College and NBA levels, leaving the bench is a big no-no and is pretty much automatic suspension. If nothing else, the KHSAA needs to clarify the situation. I know they had a tough call to make last night and short amount of time to do it. Either way, they were going to get criticism.

 

The players name we cannot use, definitely put his teams chances at a title at risk.

 

Personally, I am happy Mason won. But it will be a decision that will be debated for years.

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I bet they (the KHSAA) will blame the refs who didn't throw him out at the time of the incident - which I will also consider a very weak move by a very weak organization.

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I am guessing the game refs knew the impact of their decision if they ejected him immediately. From what I saw at the game, they seemed to huddle and discuss for a while. The Rupp Arena announcer said he was given a technical for leaving the bench.

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I am guessing the game refs knew the impact of their decision if they ejected him immediately. From what I saw at the game, they seemed to huddle and discuss for a while. The Rupp Arena announcer said he was given a technical for leaving the bench.

 

IMHO, the refs in the incident knew what they were doing. They knew that coming onto the floor was a T and an automatic ejection, but also knew that MOST of the crowd did not know that. Therefore, they announced a T, but not an ejection. However, it didn't last long because those informed know that coming off the bench you can't play. So it was, for about 6 hours, but during that time, I think the KHSAA thought, "Man, we don't want a title game without one of the team having one of it's top 3 players." So they discussed with the officials the call, and together, they decided that the player didn't receive a T for coming onto the court, but for what he said. And of course they did this because it would benefit the championship game for both teams to be a full strength. But rules are rules, and you can't bend them, unless you are in the politics that are the KHSAA...

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I hope the KHSAA and the game refs didn't get together and "change the call" after the game to allow the "player we cannot name" to play. That would be pretty seedy!

 

I hope it is just a rule interpretation that they debated. Again, I think we need to see how situations like this have been ruled on in the past.

 

I was sitting in the Mason section for the Semi-final game. The fans immediately started discussing the possibility that "the un-nammed" player would be unable to play due to leaving the bench. Most of the Mason fans thought he was suspended until he came out to warm up in the finals. The un-named player came out about 5 minutes after the rest of the team hit the floor. So I am guessing that is when the KHSAA changed their opinion and allowed him to play.

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Really torn on this matter. But the more I think about it, I'm not surprised at all. The KHSAA has to be the worse High School AA in the Country. How they get away with what they do, is beyond me.

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I hope the KHSAA and the game refs didn't get together and "change the call" after the game to allow the "player we cannot name" to play. That would be pretty seedy!

 

 

You can't be surprised, it's the KHSAA were talking about...

 

Maybe we can get a poll on this?

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