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Sun Tzu

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  1. It comes down to this. KHSAA will do nothing to turn the tide on this problem. Head football coaches and their school districts will roll the dice and take their chances. If something horrific happens at one of these sites where contact occurs, then KHSAA can hide behind its Bylaw Shield and point in the direction of the school's leadership. What a horrible way to protect football players!
  2. Manual, Male, and St. X will be in District 3 while Trinity will be in District 4. 04/15/14 ? Football DRAFT Alignment of Teams, 2015-2018 | Kentucky High School Athletic Association Proposed Class 6A District 1 – Daviess County, Henderson County, McCracken County, Muhlenberg County, Ohio County District 2 – Central Hardin, Meade County, North Hardin District 3 – Butler, DuPont Manual, Male, Pleasure Ridge Park, St. Xavier District 4 – Ballard, Eastern, Jeffersontown, Seneca, Trinity (Louisville) District 5 – Conner, Cooper, Ryle District 6 – Boone County, Campbell County, Simon Kenton District 7 – Bryan Station, Henry Clay, Paul Laurence Dunbar, Scott County District 8 – George Rogers Clark, Lafayette, Madison Central, Tates Creek
  3. The issue is not whether you agree with the KHSAA. The issue is whether or not head football coaches will believe that the KHSAA will follow through with punishment in the future for breaking these rules.
  4. Teams could take their OL players and coach with them. Work on footwork and pass protection drills behind the endzone while the 7 on 7 games are going on.
  5. Here are the big 3: 1.) http://khsaa.org/handbook/20142015/bylaws.pdf i) Following the season and until organized practice begins for the next season, no football gear other than the helmet may be issued used by a member of the team for any activity except for the approved spring football practice period and issuance of gear to a specific individual for attendance/participation in a specific event at an off campus facility. 2.) 08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association Restrictions and allowances after July 9 prior to first contact practice (practice in full gear): 7-on-7 and other simulations are allowed from July 10 to the first day any other pads are worn. Catastrophic insurance is not valid during these simulations, and the helmet is the only equipment allowed to be issued. No other pads can be issued to players prior to the first date. There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past). 3.) 08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association All-star game/individual camp exception Gear may be issued to a player who has previously played for the team to participate in an individual camp or all-star game between the last day of the previous season and before July 21. No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants. The gear must be returned by the individual immediately following the camp. Penalty for violation will be BOTH institutional, and against the coach, which may include multiple contest suspension.
  6. They might grow, but camps will be before July 21st and only 5 or fewer players from each team can attend. 08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association "There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past)" All-star game/individual camp exception Gear may be issued to a player who has previously played for the team to participate in an individual camp or all-star game between the last day of the previous season and before July 21. No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants. The gear must be returned by the individual immediately following the camp.
  7. #nevergonnastop 08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association "There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past)."
  8. You are riding a slippery slope here. The KHSAA is limiting the amount of contact that occurs for players. It isn't about the camps, it is about the contact.
  9. [video=youtube;Vw99hN-mT5c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw99hN-mT5c
  10. Incorrect. This "No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants." combined with this "There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past). means that you cannot have more than 5 members from the same team in full pads at an off-site facility until August 1st.
  11. A team in this case would be a football program. No more than 5 individuals can go to an individual football camp.
  12. But, Ram does slice. He is slicing big on this issue.
  13. Incorrect, unless Raceland's coaches leave and Raceland does not have equipment issued to them (either by their own coaches or staff at the off-site facility.) "No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants."
  14. If another team is there and Raceland has 6 or more players, then what?
  15. Head football coaches, ADs, and school districts will not take the risk of punishment from the KHSAA any longer. If so, the head coach and school district will suffer the consequences.
  16. Would Raceland send 6 or more players to next year's Down and Dirty camp if it would mean an Institutional penalty and one against the coach which may include a multiple contest suspension? Do you really believe that Mike Salmons is going to risk his career as a coach and educator? Would the Raceland BOE allow 6 or more kids to go to this camp knowing the risks against Raceland-Worthington Schools?
  17. Agreed, but here is the catch. Since the camp would be sponsored by "outside entities", the member school's coaches could not be present and no equipment would be allowed to be issued to participants. Read below. "No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants." Therefore, nobody would go if you had 6 or more individuals at one of these camps.
  18. They are also surrounding the defending state champ, Scott County.
  19. It clearly states that teams cannot be in full pads prior to August 1st. Let's say that you have 6 or more players from the same high school team in full pads next year on July 15th at a non-KHSAA facility for a camp. Do you believe this would be legal according to the 8/6/14 document from the KHSAA?
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