Coaches in the past who were knowlegable about the game and put forth their best effort had no problems. If the job is not getting done and I'm not just talking about wins and losses there is no reason a parent/fan can't express their dissatisfaction. If it's in the classroom or the basketball court having high expectations is what great schools and athletic programs are made of.

 

Did Coach Luebbe have success?

Did Coach Luebbe's players not go onto success at the next level?

Explain Coach Luebbe being dismissed.

 

And absolutely right parents can express dissatisfaction but that is not done in a vacuum with no consequences or perceptions created by them doing so. Add in the point, that coaching candidates are coming in with their history of dealing with parents and many times they see the parents complaining who have an over zealous idea of how good their child actually is. And they wonder if the parents of WV expressing their dissatisfaction is the same or not.

I disagree!! As Cats Pride said there is no pattern of a problem here. There was a obvious problem with this coach and the fans spoke up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's shows that Walton fans care about what happens at their school. I would much rather have it that way than a bunch of fans with no interest. How is pointing out their is a problem crossing the line. If you have low expectations that's exactly what you get.

 

 

So as a coach, I make a couple parents mad, I could lose my job? This doesn't sound like a good place to be if a coach has to bend over and do a lot of kissing! It is one thing to be an interested parent and another thing to be a loud mouth parent/fan!

 

I think there is alot more to this coach losing her job than what all the BGP experts know. Maybe I will apply, I know the Supt/AD, I might have a shot at it.:thumb:

I can tell you for a FACT that some of the candidates for this job have expressed concern over the Walton job because of what they have read in this thread concerning the parents of WV.

 

:thumb: You are absolutely correct as there has been a great deal of conversation made by many interested parties that at 1st found this to be a very attractive position only to decide that this job may not be worth the trouble.

I believe that overly zealous parents along with an adminstration that doesn't really appear to know what it is they want in a coach has made what should be a very attractive position one that has kept some very good coaches from applying.

Did Coach Luebbe have success?

Did Coach Luebbe's players not go onto success at the next level?

Explain Coach Luebbe being dismissed.

 

And absolutely right parents can express dissatisfaction but that is not done in a vacuum with no consequences or perceptions created by them doing so. Add in the point, that coaching candidates are coming in with their history of dealing with parents and many times they see the parents complaining who have an over zealous idea of how good their child actually is. And they wonder if the parents of WV expressing their dissatisfaction is the same or not.

Coach Luebbe was dismissed by the administration. It had nothing to do with parents or fans. Did you read anything on BGP about Coach Luebbe before his dismissal. The answer is no. I agree with you that dissastifaction is not kept in a vacuum and you have to be very careful when you speak up to make sure it's warranted, because we both know there are a lot of times when a parent is just dissatisfied because their child is not getting playing time and they try to start something that isn't there. This was much deeper than that and the dissatisfaction was warranted.

Coach Luebbe was dismissed by the administration. It had nothing to do with parents or fans. Did you read anything on BGP about Coach Luebbe before his dismissal. The answer is no. I agree with you that dissastifaction is not kept in a vacuum and you have to be very careful when you speak up to make sure it's warranted, because we both know there are a lot of times when a parent is just dissatisfied because their child is not getting playing time and they try to start something that isn't there. This was much deeper than that and the dissatisfaction was warranted.

 

 

And this is the exact thing that potential candidates are weighing. Was it warranted or is it simply meddlesome and dissatisfied parents?

 

Which then has them wondering if it was parents behind the scenes working to get rid of Coach Luebbe who seemed to be successful.

 

You have to admit, you had one coach who appeared to be having success dismissed by administration then his replacement ran out by the parents, and that would put a huge question mark on the program. And that is unfortunate because it should be a very good job. One I have recommended to my friends to pursue.

 

But the last coach didn't have administration support in face of success and this coach didn't have parental support.

And this is the exact thing that potential candidates are weighing. Was it warranted or is it simply meddlesome and dissatisfied parents?

Which then has them wondering if it was parents behind the scenes working to get rid of Coach Luebbe who seemed to be successful.

 

You have to admit, you had one coach who appeared to be having success dismissed by administration then his replacement ran out by the parents, and that would put a huge question mark on the program. And that is unfortunate because it should be a very good job. One I have recommended to my friends to pursue.

 

But the last coach didn't have administration support in face of success and this coach didn't have parental support.

I just told you it was warranted. I just told you the administration decided to dismiss Coach Luebbe and did a great service to everybody in not going into the reasons for that. The last coach did not earn the support of the parents. Just because your the coach doesn't mean you get a free ride and don't have to earn respect.

I just told you it was warranted. I just told you the administration decided to dismiss Coach Luebbe and did a great service to everybody in not going into the reasons for that. The last coach did not earn the support of the parents. Just because your the coach doesn't mean you get a free ride and don't have to earn respect.

 

Not to make this personal and I have no reason to doubt what you said but you are a faceless poster on an Internet site and you could easily be right or wrong.

 

When a coaching candidate is making what could be a life-changing decision, they cannot just take the word of a faceless poster.

 

I would assume that this would be some of the questions that the candidate would raise in an interview or by asking around with people they may know that are familiar with WV.

Not to make this personal and I have no reason to doubt what you said but you are a faceless poster on an Internet site and you could easily be right or wrong.

 

When a coaching candidate is making what could be a life-changing decision, they cannot just take the word of a faceless poster.

 

I would assume that this would be some of the questions that the candidate would raise in an interview or by asking around with people they may know that are familiar with WV.

 

:thumb:Good job LBBC, you are making a great deal of sense I believe at least to those of us who aren't close to the situation. Not sure you are going to get anywhere with the ones who are or the ones who have a dog in the fight.

Not to make this personal and I have no reason to doubt what you said but you are a faceless poster on an Internet site and you could easily be right or wrong.

 

When a coaching candidate is making what could be a life-changing decision, they cannot just take the word of a faceless poster.

 

I would assume that this would be some of the questions that the candidate would raise in an interview or by asking around with people they may know that are familiar with WV.

Fair enough.

:thumb:Good job LBBC, you are making a great deal of sense I believe at least to those of us who aren't close to the situation. Not sure you are going to get anywhere with the ones who are or the ones who have a dog in the fight.

I hear what you are saying. But you have to remember the ones close to the situation know the kind of things that were going on. The ones not close to the situation do not. Although it may not seem the case, a lot of restraint has been shown by those who are close to the situation by not sharing details.

Hey guys, I am going to go on and shut down this thread.

 

A lot of good questions and comments were made throughout.

 

Feel free to start another thread but lets keep the discussion to Walton-Verona's search for a new coach and lets report any new information. We are spinning in the mud with some of our dialogue.

 

Thanks :thumb: