So, our economy in Kentucky is doing well & this budget crisis is a complete fabrication of Beshear?? I do think KEES is a good idea but how effective is it? Since its implication how many more Kentucky students are going to college? How many more are graduating? I do not know these answers but before I can praise these programs, I must look at how effective they are. I'm just playing devil's advocate about KEES.

 

I don't know the numbers on that either but I can tell you it makes going a lot easier 10 grand over four years for a good student in scholarship from KEES is better than 10 more grand of debt for our college graduates.

I don't know the numbers on that either but I can tell you it makes going a lot easier 10 grand over four years for a good student in scholarship from KEES is better than 10 more grand of debt for our college graduates.

 

Can't students work while in college in order to avoid debt?

No opinion. Same as lottery, I wouldn't care AS LONG AS they keep it in large border cities and keep it out of small town, USA :thumb:

Can't students work while in college in order to avoid debt?

 

yes they can but when we've told them growing up that money would be there and they've done what they were suppose to to earn it, then they shouldn't have to work to make up for that money in my opinion. This is probably getting off topic a little bit but I just don't trust Beshear he seems to only have what he wants at heart and not whats best for the Commonwealth and it's future.

Gambling is not and has never been the solution to economic problems. Build these casinos and watch the number of bankruptcys, divorce, suicide, and crime rates increase.

 

I was born, raised and still live in Ashland and the thoughts of a casino in my hometown sickens me. The reason our country is in the shape it is in is because of our loss of values.

One other issue we've sort of danced around. Does anyone believe that it's morally wrong?

 

Let me save everyone the trouble of typing some cliche about someone forcing their values on someone else. The question is, simply, do you feel it's morally wrong.

I look at gambling like alcohol, it isn't morally wrong in moderation. It is when it consumes your life and every thought that it is wrong. Or when it damages you ability to think or have money because all you do is spend it on gambling or alcohol.

I look at gambling like alcohol, it isn't morally wrong in moderation. It is when it consumes your life and every thought that it is wrong. Or when it damages you ability to think or have money because all you do is spend it on gambling or alcohol.

 

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http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/322278.html

 

Carol Devine, a student minister in Danville, believes casino gambling would bring with it many social problems -- addictions, bankruptcies and broken families. Devine, and others in Women Against Casino Gambling, believe that it's mainly Kentucky women who would be saddled with any negative fallout from gambling.

 

"Women have a unique perspective in us as mothers and wives," Devine said. "Women have a unique perspective in that they would be the ones that would clean up any mess left by casinos."

 

"Slots are what they call the crack of gambling -- it's a highly addictive substance that's created so that the people who sit in front of them will gamble to extinction," Devine said. "It just takes gambling a whole different route."

 

Joy Bolton, executive director of Kentucky Woman's Missionary Union, believes casinos can lead to gambling addictions that would hurt families throughout the state.

 

"If we approve this, as a state, we are saying we encourage people to be stupid with their money," Bolton said. "And we're saying that those people who are affected by problem gamblers don't matter."

One other issue we've sort of danced around. Does anyone believe that it's morally wrong?

 

Let me save everyone the trouble of typing some cliche about someone forcing their values on someone else. The question is, simply, do you feel it's morally wrong.

 

I will add to that question: Is it morally wrong for a society to push an industry that they know is going to ruin people's lives?

I will add to that question: Is it morally wrong for a society to push an industry that they know is going to ruin people's lives?

 

Fast food places can lead to people being obese, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and other such things that could ruin lives but I dont see anyone trying to stop McDonald or the colonel from putting in another one of their restaurants in our state.

Fast food places can lead to people being obese, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and other such things that could ruin lives but I dont see anyone trying to stop McDonald or the colonel from putting in another one of their restaurants in our state.

 

Didn't we already have this debate in the U.S. during prohibition? We are not debating gambling because we already have that in the lottery, bingo, horse race, online gaming etc. We are debating casinos since gambling is okay in kentucky & no is talking about banning any of the things we have now.

Fast food places can lead to people being obese, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and other such things that could ruin lives but I dont see anyone trying to stop McDonald or the colonel from putting in another one of their restaurants in our state.

 

Well with casinos, KY seems to be a follower and want to do what other states have done.

 

Might be the same here as other communities have outlawed the use of certain types of fatty oils that are used to cook in. Ky following the lead of others and moving at the pace they do, probably will look to do the same in 7-10 years.

Didn't we already have this debate in the U.S. during prohibition? We are not debating gambling because we already have that in the lottery, bingo, horse race, online gaming etc. We are debating casinos since gambling is okay in kentucky & no is talking about banning any of the things we have now.

 

I thought the above quote was interesting on the exact issue you are mentioning.

 

"Slots are what they call the crack of gambling -- it's a highly addictive substance that's created so that the people who sit in front of them will gamble to extinction," Devine said. "It just takes gambling a whole different route."

It seems like we aren't giving people in general enough credit here.

 

People in general are not stupid, and know how to indulge themselves in moderation.

 

I don't think that casino's are going to rip the moral fabric of our nation or state to shreds. As with any indulgence, you have those who will overindulge, but I think that those individuals are the ones who are going to do it with or without the casino's.

 

Same as with sex, drugs, and alcohol.. etc..

 

I feel that the presence of a casino in Louisville, Nky, or Lexington would provide a nice boost to the economy.