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So you know Baseball....

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#1) Bottom 9th, 1 out, men 2nd and 3rd base, 2-2 score. Pitcher decides to intentionally walk hitter. Catcher stands up to signal intentional walk, then steps outside catcher's box, and pitcher then throws pitch to catcher, who quickly shoots down to third base and catches sleeping runner off bag. Call?

 

In this situation for a high school game you fire the head coach. Since all you have to do is tell the umpire you want to intentionally walk him and he takes the base.

 

Good topic though. I love rules situations.

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Assuming that the catcher stepped completely outside of the catcher's box BEFORE the pitcher started his motion and its during an intentional walk, its a balk on the pitcher.

 

The "catcher's balk" is a misnomer. Its still a balk on the pitcher. However in #2 since it was not during an intentional walk, its a legal play by the catcher..

 

Actually, I think the catcher cannot leave his box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand on an intentional walk, not just before he starts his motion (but I'll hve to double-check on that one). And you are correct that this stipulation only applies on intentional walks, not pitchouts.

 

Exactly correct about "catcher's balk." No such term exists in MLB rulebook, but you'll hear local umpires call this all the time.

You know me well and I started to include that one....Anyone know?

 

127', 3" and then some fraction, but I can't recall what the fraction is! Maybe 1/2"? But I know the 127', 3" is right. ;)

Assuming that the catcher stepped completely outside of the catcher's box BEFORE the pitcher started his motion and its during an intentional walk, its a balk on the pitcher.

 

Actually, one other correction. You are considered outside of the box if you have one foot outside, not both feet outside. This is the same as a hitter in the batter's box (must have both feet inside, not just one) or even a coach in the coaching box (not that any umpire ever enforces this rule).

127', 3" and then some fraction, but I can't recall what the fraction is! Maybe 1/2"? But I know the 127', 3" is right. ;)

 

The Pythagorean Theorom says that in a right triange, A squared plus B squared = C squared. So we have A = 90 (home to first) and B = 90 (1st to 2nd) so we square each and total them which = 16,200. The square root of 16,200 is 127.28 so , Coop, your answer is correct in that its 127' 3".

The Pythagorean Theorom says that in a right triange, A squared plus B squared = C squared. So we have A = 90 (home to first) and B = 90 (1st to 2nd) so we square each and total them which = 16,200. The square root of 16,200 is 127.28 so , Coop, your answer is correct in that its 127' 3".

 

Are you certain there's no fraction added on there? I am at work without benefit of my rulebooks (I guess I could google it!), but could almost swear there was some odd fraction added on to that figure. Like it really matters, I guess. :D

OK, I did Google it. It is 127' 3 3/8". Why the 3/8", I wonder? Other than the obvious reason that it gives people like us something to obsess about.

Okay, we claim to know Baseball but let's see. Just answer the questions, to the best of your ability.

 

1) Batters Box width - 3'-6" · 4' · 4'-6"

2) Catchers Box width - 41" · 42" · 43"

3) Homeplate width - 17" · 18 · 19"

4) Pitchers Plate width - 4" · 5" · 6"

5) Pitchers Plate length - 22" · 24" · 26"

6) Distance from Homeplate, to Pitching Plate - 60' · 60'-6" · 61'

7) Is "Black" part of Homeplate - Yes · No

8) Pitchers Circle diameter - 18' · 19' · 20'

 

This is some of the first stuff I learned in my baseball coaching class down here at UK that Coach Cohen taught. I know the whole catchers box width is something I didn't know exactly until that class.

 

Has anyone else on here who has gone to UK taken that class with Coach Cohen. I know that class was just a great class, and I learned a whole lot. He taught us all kinds of differen't things about baseball, especially when it came to hitting and how to break down a person's swing. It was just a great class to have taken, and I definitely see why Coach Cohen has done such a great job with the UK baseball team.

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This is some of the first stuff I learned in my baseball coaching class down here at UK that Coach Cohen taught. I know the whole catchers box width is something I didn't know exactly until that class.

 

Has anyone else on here who has gone to UK taken that class with Coach Cohen. I know that class was just a great class, and I learned a whole lot. He taught us all kinds of differen't things about baseball, especially when it came to hitting and how to break down a person's swing. It was just a great class to have taken, and I definitely see why Coach Cohen has done such a great job with the UK baseball team.

Coach Cohen, is great. His wagon wheel and hitting video, is excellent and used by many programs.
The Pythagorean Theorom says that in a right triange, A squared plus B squared = C squared. So we have A = 90 (home to first) and B = 90 (1st to 2nd) so we square each and total them which = 16,200. The square root of 16,200 is 127.28 so , Coop, your answer is correct in that its 127' 3".

 

127' 3 3/8"

Assuming that the catcher stepped completely outside of the catcher's box BEFORE the pitcher started his motion and its during an intentional walk, its a balk on the pitcher.

 

Checked my MLB annotated rulebook and it says this: " When the situation is such that, in the plate umpire's judgement, the batter might be walked intentionally, he shall require the catcher to keep both feet within the lines of the catcher's box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand."

 

No such rules exists for a pitchout (or any other pitch), as you stated.

Two more scenarios for fun. Both of them actually occurred in games I've coached.

 

#1) 1 out, men on 1B & 3B. 1B runner goes on pitch, batter hits rope into gap that LF makes terrific diving catch (2nd out). 3B runner properly tags up and crosses plate before LF's throw to 1B beats returning runner for the third out. Does the run count?

 

#2) Runner on 1B, one out. Batter hits line drive that deflects off pitcher's glove, then deflects off field umpire's shoulder, and is then caught in the air by 2Bman (ball has not yet touched the ground). 2Bman throws to 1B in an attempt to double off 1B runner and his throw does in fact reach 1B before the runner returns to base. Make the call.

 

#2a) Exact same scenario as #2 above. 1B runner, seeing that the throw reached the bag before he returned, immediately heads off field towards his dugout. Make the call.

Two more scenarios for fun. Both of them actually occurred in games I've coached.

 

#1) 1 out, men on 1B & 3B. 1B runner goes on pitch, batter hits rope into gap that LF makes terrific diving catch (2nd out). 3B runner properly tags up and crosses plate before LF's throw to 1B beats returning runner for the third out. Does the run count?

 

Run counts.

 

#2) Runner on 1B, one out. Batter hits line drive that deflects off pitcher's glove, then deflects off field umpire's shoulder, and is then caught in the air by 2Bman (ball has not yet touched the ground). 2Bman throws to 1B in an attempt to double off 1B runner and his throw does in fact reach 1B before the runner returns to base. Make the call.

 

Runner is out. Once the ball touches a fielder including the pitcher and then hits the ump, the ball is live.

 

#2a) Exact same scenario as #2 above. 1B runner, seeing that the throw reached the bag before he returned, immediately heads off field towards his dugout. Make the call.

 

Since I said the runner was out in 2, he must be out in 2A. I'm guessing you and I disagree on #2.

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Two more scenarios for fun. Both of them actually occurred in games I've coached.

 

#1) 1 out, men on 1B & 3B. 1B runner goes on pitch, batter hits rope into gap that LF makes terrific diving catch (2nd out). 3B runner properly tags up and crosses plate before LF's throw to 1B beats returning runner for the third out. Does the run count?

 

#2) Runner on 1B, one out. Batter hits line drive that deflects off pitcher's glove, then deflects off field umpire's shoulder, and is then caught in the air by 2Bman (ball has not yet touched the ground). 2Bman throws to 1B in an attempt to double off 1B runner and his throw does in fact reach 1B before the runner returns to base. Make the call.

 

#2a) Exact same scenario as #2 above. 1B runner, seeing that the throw reached the bag before he returned, immediately heads off field towards his dugout. Make the call.

1 - DP and run doesn't count (1st never returned to base)

2 - Batter is out and runner, advances at own peril (guessing here)

3 - Runner is out, if tagged or gives up his position on the base.

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