HHSDad Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Democrats Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner Hillary Clinton 553,013 51% 0 Barack Obama 336,016 31% 0 John Edwards 165,769 15% 0 Dennis Kucinich 6,404 1% 0 53% of precincts reporting Republicans Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner John McCain 475,562 35% 0 Mitt Romney 421,579 31% 0 Rudy Giuliani 201,492 15% 0 Mike Huckabee 178,688 13% 0 Ron Paul 41,804 3% 0 Fred Thompson 17,042 1% 0 Duncan Hunter 2,013 0% 0 57% of precincts reporting This is big for the GOP winner, because Florida is a winner take all state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Rudy is now officially toast! The numbers for them Dems are a little misleading as this is another state being punished by the DNC and being given delegates for the convention, so none of the Dems worked the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 What about Prop 1? That's why everybody flocked to the polls today. Not for this boatload of losers. Don't make me actually go to a Florida site to get the results. I get all my news from Kentucky. :thumb: :banana: :jump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearsay Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 What's on Prop 1, Swampy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 What's on Prop 1, Swampy? NO. 1 CONSTITUTIONAL REVISION ARTICLE VII, SECTIONS 3, 4, AND 6 ARTICLE XII, SECTION 27 (Legislative) Property Tax Exemptions; Limitations On Property Tax Assessments This revision proposes changes to the State Constitution relating to property taxation. With respect to homestead property, this revision: (1) increases the homestead exemption except for school district taxes and (2) allows homestead property owners to transfer up to $500,000 of their Save-Our-Homes benefits to their next homestead. With respect to nonhomestead property, this revision (3) provides a $25,000 exemption for tangible personal property and (4) limits assessment increases for specified nonhomestead real property except for school district taxes. In more detail, this revision: (1) Increases the homestead exemption by exempting the assessed value between $50,000 and $75,000. This exemption does not apply to school district taxes. (2) Provides for the transfer of accumulated Save-Our-Homes benefits. Homestead property owners will be able to transfer their Save-Our-Homes benefit to a new homestead within 1 year and not more than 2 years after relinquishing their previous homestead; except, if this revision is approved by the electors in January of 2008 and if the new homestead is established on January 1, 2008, the previous homestead must have been relinquished in 2007. If the new homestead has a higher just value than the previous one, the accumulated benefit can be transferred; if the new homestead has a lower just value, the amount of benefit transferred will be reduced. The transferred benefit may not exceed $500,000. This provision applies to all taxes. (3) Authorizes an exemption from property taxes of $25,000 of assessed value of tangible personal property. This provision applies to all taxes. (4) Limits the assessment increases for specified nonhomestead real property to 10 percent each year. Property will be assessed at just value following an improvement, as defined by general law, and may be assessed at just value following a change of ownership or control if provided by general law. This limitation does not apply to school district taxes. This limitation is repealed effective January 1, 2019, unless renewed by a vote of the electors in the general election held in 2018. Further, this revision: a. Repeals obsolete language on the homestead exemption when it was less than $25,000 and did not apply uniformly to property taxes levied by all local governments. b. Provides for homestead exemptions to be repealed if a future constitutional amendment provides for assessment of homesteads "at less than just value" rather than as currently provided "at a specified percentage" of just value. c. Schedules the changes to take effect upon approval by the electors and operate retroactively to January 1, 2008, if approved in a special election held on January 29, 2008, or to take effect January 1, 2009, if approved in the general election held in November of 2008. The limitation on annual assessment increases for specified real property shall first apply to the 2009 tax roll if this revision is approved in a special election held on January 29, 2008, or shall first apply to the 2010 tax roll if this revision is approved in the general election held in November of 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Here we go.... Property Tax Amendment -- 5493 of 6,913 precincts reporting (79%) Statewide Yes [W] 2,402,061 64% (X) No 1,331,023 36% :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb: :dancingpa Looks like the sales tax will be going up. I'll take user fees over property taxes any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Not a strong showing by Huck. What has to happen on Super Tuesday for him to stay in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Not a strong showing by Huck. What has to happen on Super Tuesday for him to stay in? Win 1/3 to 1/2 of the delegates for that day with the other two splitting the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearsay Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 NO. 1 CONSTITUTIONAL REVISION ARTICLE VII, SECTIONS 3, 4, AND 6 ARTICLE XII, SECTION 27 (Legislative) Property Tax Exemptions; Limitations On Property Tax Assessments This revision proposes changes to the State Constitution relating to property taxation. With respect to homestead property, this revision: (1) increases the homestead exemption except for school district taxes and (2) allows homestead property owners to transfer up to $500,000 of their Save-Our-Homes benefits to their next homestead. With respect to nonhomestead property, this revision (3) provides a $25,000 exemption for tangible personal property and (4) limits assessment increases for specified nonhomestead real property except for school district taxes. In more detail, this revision: (1) Increases the homestead exemption by exempting the assessed value between $50,000 and $75,000. This exemption does not apply to school district taxes. (2) Provides for the transfer of accumulated Save-Our-Homes benefits. Homestead property owners will be able to transfer their Save-Our-Homes benefit to a new homestead within 1 year and not more than 2 years after relinquishing their previous homestead; except, if this revision is approved by the electors in January of 2008 and if the new homestead is established on January 1, 2008, the previous homestead must have been relinquished in 2007. If the new homestead has a higher just value than the previous one, the accumulated benefit can be transferred; if the new homestead has a lower just value, the amount of benefit transferred will be reduced. The transferred benefit may not exceed $500,000. This provision applies to all taxes. (3) Authorizes an exemption from property taxes of $25,000 of assessed value of tangible personal property. This provision applies to all taxes. (4) Limits the assessment increases for specified nonhomestead real property to 10 percent each year. Property will be assessed at just value following an improvement, as defined by general law, and may be assessed at just value following a change of ownership or control if provided by general law. This limitation does not apply to school district taxes. This limitation is repealed effective January 1, 2019, unless renewed by a vote of the electors in the general election held in 2018. Further, this revision: a. Repeals obsolete language on the homestead exemption when it was less than $25,000 and did not apply uniformly to property taxes levied by all local governments. b. Provides for homestead exemptions to be repealed if a future constitutional amendment provides for assessment of homesteads "at less than just value" rather than as currently provided "at a specified percentage" of just value. c. Schedules the changes to take effect upon approval by the electors and operate retroactively to January 1, 2008, if approved in a special election held on January 29, 2008, or to take effect January 1, 2009, if approved in the general election held in November of 2008. The limitation on annual assessment increases for specified real property shall first apply to the 2009 tax roll if this revision is approved in a special election held on January 29, 2008, or shall first apply to the 2010 tax roll if this revision is approved in the general election held in November of 2008. That's a nice homestead exemption. Got room down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverShadow Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Not a strong showing by Huck. What has to happen on Super Tuesday for him to stay in? He needs to start a campaign that knows there are seven days to the week and not all what is done on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 He needs to start a campaign that knows there are seven days to the week and not all what is done on Sunday. That is where you are grossly mistaken. He has been campaigning that way. The only coverage he gets from the media that has painted him as only a religious candidate is on Sunday. As I mentioned in another thread. He has proposed a Fair Tax System WEEKS/MONTHS ago. Did that get any coverage like when Rudy G proposed his tax system? No. Has there been any debate on the national media about a Fair Tax System although Huckabee is continually talking about it on the stump speeches? No. He is much more than just a Sunday morning candidate. Unfortunately, the national media who determines what view the people see of a candidate is determined to paint him as a certain type of candidate. Another example of this is the message that Hillary won Nevada. Electoral votes and not popular votes are what determine the candidate. Obama left Nevada with more electoral votes than Hillary. He won the state in the area that counted. But is that the message being sent out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverShadow Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 That is where you are grossly mistaken. He has been campaigning that way. The only coverage he gets from the media that has painted him as only a religious candidate is on Sunday. As I mentioned in another thread. He has proposed a Fair Tax System WEEKS/MONTHS ago. Did that get any coverage like when Rudy G proposed his tax system? No. Has there been any debate on the national media about a Fair Tax System although Huckabee is continually talking about it on the stump speeches? No. He is much more than just a Sunday morning candidate. Unfortunately, the national media who determines what view the people see of a candidate is determined to paint him as a certain type of candidate. Another example of this is the message that Hillary won Nevada. Electoral votes and not popular votes are what determine the candidate. Obama left Nevada with more electoral votes than Hillary. He won the state in the area that counted. But is that the message being sent out? Yeah, Fox News, Limbaugh, others are all part of national media bias to narrow in the presentation. Ok. Sure. And as for reporting and sound bites, why then does he give them the material to use? Speech after speech he has to say something. Oh, I guess his own website is filtered by outside media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Yeah, Fox News, Limbaugh, others are all part of national media bias to narrow in the presentation. Ok. Sure. And as for reporting and sound bites, why then does he give them the material to use? Speech after speech he has to say something. Oh, I guess his own website is filtered by outside media? I have already post from his website once in this forum showing you to be wrong on your position. Here are his issues items on his website. The Secure America Plan Immigration Plan to Strengthen America's Infrastructure Faith and Politics Sanctity of Life Veterans' Bill Of Rights Education And The Arts Health Care Taxes/Economy Marriage Energy Independence National Security/Foreign Policy: Iraq National Security/Foreign Policy: War On Terror Foreign Policy: Israel Cuba Policy Agriculture Crisis Management 2nd Amendment Rights Judges Vertical Politics I have bolded the ones that are not faith issues. here is the link to these issues. http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegooch Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 That is where you are grossly mistaken. He has been campaigning that way. The only coverage he gets from the media that has painted him as only a religious candidate is on Sunday. As I mentioned in another thread. He has proposed a Fair Tax System WEEKS/MONTHS ago. Did that get any coverage like when Rudy G proposed his tax system? No. Has there been any debate on the national media about a Fair Tax System although Huckabee is continually talking about it on the stump speeches? No. He is much more than just a Sunday morning candidate. Unfortunately, the national media who determines what view the people see of a candidate is determined to paint him as a certain type of candidate. Another example of this is the message that Hillary won Nevada. Electoral votes and not popular votes are what determine the candidate. Obama left Nevada with more electoral votes than Hillary. He won the state in the area that counted. But is that the message being sent out? Do whatever it takes to keep you, your politics, and your crazy right wing nutjob out of Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habib Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Yeah, Fox News, Limbaugh, others are all part of national media bias to narrow in the presentation. Ok. Sure. And as for reporting and sound bites, why then does he give them the material to use? Speech after speech he has to say something. Oh, I guess his own website is filtered by outside media? I don't watch TV news or listen to talk radio, so I can't speak to that, but I can't say that his website knocks anyone down with "Sunday morning candidate" rhetoric. In fact all I have found was a brief paragraph in his about me section mentioning his past as a pastor and a mention of faith in his issues section. From hearing him speak and watching his performance in debates he has done well to discuss a wide spectrum of issues and field questions about his faith in a very unobtrusive and eloquent manner. edit: lbbc beat me to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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