Bradshaw was a good quarterback on a GREAT team. He wasn't even the best of his own era.

^ Exactly how many superbowls had Pittsburg won before Bradshaw and how many since he retired?

How old was Montana when he got his 4th Superbowl appearence?

IMO Brady is 1st or 2nd as of right now no matter which way you look at it. He has the numbers and Championships as of right now.Competition is high so the level he is playing at isnt being questioned. His numbers are being compared to the best right now and he is still active. If he goes and wins 3 more championships on the next 7 years then he's the best without debate and this is capable . If numbers( he will be top 5 if not 1), Championships(already top 3 and will be even higher before the end of his career) and he already set completion % and all other kinds of records. If he breaks the majority of records and has the most championships of all other QB's, and before he retires then I dont see how he's not #1 in the next couple years unless someone else surpases him.

^ Exactly how many superbowls had Pittsburg won before Bradshaw and how many since he retired?

 

They hadn't won any before Lambert, Ham, Greene, Swann, Stallworth, Harris, Webster and company were there either.

 

Bradshaw wasn't the best player on his own team.

How old was Montana when he got his 4th Superbowl appearence?

IMO Brady is 1st or 2nd as of right now no matter which way you look at it. He has the numbers and Championships as of right now.Competition is high so the level he is playing at isnt being questioned. His numbers are being compared to the best right now and he is still active. If he goes and wins 3 more championships on the next 7 years then he's the best without debate and this is capable . If numbers( he will be top 5 if not 1), Championships(already top 3 and will be even higher before the end of his career) and he already set completion % and all other kinds of records. If he breaks the majority of records and has the most championships of all other QB's, and before he retires then I dont see how he's not #1 in the next couple years unless someone else surpases him.

 

 

 

His numbers are nowhere near Manning, and championships don't make him a better QUARTERBACK than Marino, who has none.

They hadn't won any before Lambert, Ham, Greene, Swann, Stallworth, Harris, Webster and company were there either.

 

Bradshaw wasn't the best player on his own team.

 

Montana wasn't on his and Brady might very well not be on his either.

Rice was better than Montana and you could make a very convincing argument that Moss is the best player on the Patriots.

He's definately up there, I don't know if I would call anyone the single best ever.

After watching last night's game, I will be shocked if Brady plays in the Pro Bowl...

 

ESPN reporting Brady and Moss out for the Pro Bowl??? Anyone know why?

ESPN reporting Brady and Moss out for the Pro Bowl??? Anyone know why?

 

Broken heart...:sssh:

Clearly the answer is no, which we all knew from the get go.

 

For a guy who likes to ridicule points that you think are obviously wrong, this is one is laughable to say the least.

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He still put them in position to win the game at the end. IF, IF Tyree doesnt make that catch, this is NO debate at all.

 

Are you serious? There will never be one clear cut best QB ever.

ESPN reporting Brady and Moss out for the Pro Bowl??? Anyone know why?

 

Sore losers.

Are you serious? There will never be one clear cut best QB ever.

 

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This game would have definitely strengthened Brady's argument, best single season ever and 4 Super Bowls. As it is, he has the best single season ever and 3 Super Bowls. He's in the discussion...with guys like Montana, Elway, etc...