I agree that Dawson was a great defensive player. According to this thread about 16th region records, Dawson's record is actually 18 steals in a game.

 

 

http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/showthread.php?t=137942

Just looked at the KHSAA pdf file of bball records, it says 16 also.

I was there for that game, and the amazing thing is he had about 5 in 5 trips. Long arms, could jump, anticipate and was unbelievably quick. He was fun to watch.

http://www.khsaa.org/records/basketball/boysbkrecords.pdf

Where is Dawson now?

For the past 25 years many great players have been in the 16th region. However the top three in terms of an MVP are propably a no brainer:

 

3.Mike Scott: The most dominant big man. I can not think of anyone around here to have his size. Fit perfectly in Randy Wards offense.

 

2.Frank Lee: Frank is propably the best basketball player this region has seen in the last 25 years that has played his entire elgibility here.( Frank and the other ones on this list were better than OJ was in his time in the region, not after he transfered) Not to mention Frank played on a teams with great players and could have averaged 30+ if he wanted. His teams schedule were against some of the better teams in the state.

 

1. Kelly Wells: Most people forget to mention him due to being at Rowan County. His teams won three consecutive region titles and without him they win none. He was a very good at all aspects of the game esp. shooting. He also went to Tulsa for a year with none other than Tubby Smith as his coach. Later he transfered back to MSU.

 

Honorable Mention:

Marty Thomas: Ashland

Chris Jones: Russell

Mark Surgalski: Ashland

Mike Scott from Greenup County played D-1 at Wake Forest and UK, but did not play in the NBA. There was a Final Four appearance with him in 1984.

 

Oops...I was corrected today. Greenup County made the Final Four in 1974, not 1984...

Let me think about this one for a second. Second team all state one year, first team the next. Now on his way to the NBA. I will take Mayo over someone who played at Georgetown College (Surgalski) or someone who played at Morehead (Wells) or someone who played at the Ashland YMCA (Lee) anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

Really this is a silly argument.

O.J Mayo..

who else has played D-1, and will play in the NBA.

 

Jeff Hall, Fairview, Class of 82; played at UL; member of the 86 national championship team; drafted by the Pacers, but chose to go on to graduate school at UL

Jeff Hall, Fairview, Class of 82; played at UL; member of the 86 national championship team; drafted by the Pacers, but chose to go on to graduate school at UL

 

Great player he is neck and neck with Clarence Thompson for the best to play for the Eagles in the past 25 years. And with that neither could carry Mayo's jock. No disrespect intended but you guys are comparing apples and oranges.

 

I say all of this and I am not a huge fan of Mayo and a huge fan of both Thompson and Hall but facts are facts.

I'll go with Kyle Umberger. He helped lead his team further than any 16th region team has gone the last 25 years.

 

I am good friends with Kyle Umberger.

PM LRCW and let me know what he is doing these days.. Id like to give him a shout.

 

 

What about Jackson Julson from one of the Carters?? PLayed at UC

Mike Scott from Greenup County played D-1 at Wake Forest and UK, but did not play in the NBA. There was a Final Four appearance with him in 1984.

 

I think he did play pro ball over seas though. I could be wrong but seems i heard that somewhere. Now he is a assistant coach with the Womens program at Shawnee State university.

Great player he is neck and neck with Clarence Thompson for the best to play for the Eagles in the past 25 years. And with that neither could carry Mayo's jock. No disrespect intended but you guys are comparing apples and oranges.

 

I say all of this and I am not a huge fan of Mayo and a huge fan of both Thompson and Hall but facts are facts.

 

My post was for information only and to answer the question of who from the 16th region has played D-1 and (could have) played in the NBA. It was in no way meant to compare Mayo to other present/former players from the 16th.

My post was for information only and to answer the question of who from the 16th region has played D-1 and (could have) played in the NBA. It was in no way meant to compare Mayo to other present/former players from the 16th.

 

 

Understood. I agree with what you said about Hall he was a fine player.

Let me think about this one for a second. Second team all state one year, first team the next. Now on his way to the NBA. I will take Mayo over someone who played at Georgetown College (Surgalski) or someone who played at Morehead (Wells) or someone who played at the Ashland YMCA (Lee) anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

Really this is a silly argument.

 

 

Obviously you didnt realize that he played at Marshall University and Campbellsville University.

Obviously you didnt realize that he played at Marshall University and Campbellsville University.

 

Please, he had a cup of coffee at Marshall. If he finished his career at Campbellsville then I rest my case.

Please, he had a cup of coffee at Marshall. If he finished his career at Campbellsville then I rest my case.

 

Dont be a hater Brother.:thumb:

Please, he had a cup of coffee at Marshall. If he finished his career at Campbellsville then I rest my case.

I think you are missing the point about Mayo. He was not better as a freshman than the rest of the other guys mentioned were as seniors. Did he have a better HS career, YES! in Ohio and West Virginia.

Frank played at Marshall under Billy Donovan for a year and did very well as a true freshman on a team with Jason Williams. His acedemics is what cost him, not playing ability.