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AAU Basketball

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Who looked good for Scott Co? Portwood? transfer from New Hampshire?

 

Scott County looked good with all 5 starters, but transfer from New Hampshire (Richardson), Portwood and Gaines -- post player who will be joining the Thunder this year -- led the way. Gaines had 25 points, Portwood had 12 points and at least 10 (possibly 15) rebounds, while Richardson did whatever he wanted with 20 points and probably 8-10 assists and about the same number of rebounds. Look for the Thunder to challenge The Ville this year for the 7th grade state championship.

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Scott County looked good with all 5 starters, but transfer from New Hampshire (Richardson), Portwood and Gaines -- post player who will be joining the Thunder this year -- led the way. Gaines had 25 points, Portwood had 12 points and at least 10 (possibly 15) rebounds, while Richardson did whatever he wanted with 20 points and probably 8-10 assists and about the same number of rebounds. Look for the Thunder to challenge The Ville this year for the 7th grade state championship.

 

Glad to hear those Thunder/ Scott Co Boys are doing well:thumb:.

That was a big game for them in their conference.

 

The Northern Thunder boys keep taking care of business as well:ylsuper:

wolfpack dominates BCI and trouble in Tarheel paradise?

 

Wolfpack 5th, 6th and 7th grade all won their respective divisions playing and beating on a scale of 1 -10 competition, maybe a 6. 8th grade did not play and the 4th grade team played up in the 5th grade division. All divisions were typical BCI. The 5th grade saw 6th grade teams and it was a mirror job with 6th and 7th grade divisions. However, the 6th grade Wolfpack had to play the 2 time National AAU champion U11 Cincinnati Knights twice. The 6th grade team beat them twice (once by 2 and once by 6), but it was a battle. They have a 12 year old from Daytom, OH (#12) that is a stud! Nate Verst (Jon Verst younger brother) had an outstanding game with 18 points. 12 in the second half. Tanner Moeves drew a double team the entire game but still controlled the game.

 

In the 7th grade championship game, Brandon Hatton's father and step-father(Ryan - head coach) got into and altercation in the 2nd half and the father and Brandon left in the beginning of the 2nd half. The Wolfpack pulled ahead in the 2nd Quarter by 15 and never looked back, although the Tarheels never quit fighting! McGovney led all scorers with 30.

 

As for the comment about McGovney, I stand by that. I'm not taking anything away from any other team, but as an individual player his ability and skill set is definitely there. Let's all circle back in 3 years and see where that stands.

 

Except for league games, the Wolfpack is pretty much off next weekend. We will be playing in the 1/12 - 1/13 tournament at the KBA. Looking forward to some steep competition!

 

Go Pack!

wolfpack dominates BCI and trouble in Tarheel paradise?

 

Wolfpack 5th, 6th and 7th grade all won their respective divisions playing and beating on a scale of 1 -10 competition, maybe a 6. 8th grade did not play and the 4th grade team played up in the 5th grade division. All divisions were typical BCI. The 5th grade saw 6th grade teams and it was a mirror job with 6th and 7th grade divisions. However, the 6th grade Wolfpack had to play the 2 time National AAU champion U11 Cincinnati Knights twice. The 6th grade team beat them twice (once by 2 and once by 6), but it was a battle. They have a 12 year old from Daytom, OH (#12) that is a stud! Nate Verst (Jon Verst younger brother) had an outstanding game with 18 points. 12 in the second half. Tanner Moeves drew a double team the entire game but still controlled the game.

 

In the 7th grade championship game, Brandon Hatton's father and step-father(Ryan - head coach) got into and altercation in the 2nd half and the father and Brandon left in the beginning of the 2nd half. The Wolfpack pulled ahead in the 2nd Quarter by 15 and never looked back, although the Tarheels never quit fighting! McGovney led all scorers with 30.

 

As for the comment about McGovney, I stand by that. I'm not taking anything away from any other team, but as an individual player his ability and skill set is definitely there. Let's all circle back in 3 years and see where that stands.

 

Except for league games, the Wolfpack is pretty much off next weekend. We will be playing in the 1/12 - 1/13 tournament at the KBA. Looking forward to some steep competition!

 

Go Pack!

 

Congrats to the Wolfpack for their wins this weekend especially over the Knights. But isnt that the 5th grade Knights? At one point, wasnt Moeves a 6th grader last year?

 

McGovney is a very fine player, he has very good skills and is a gym rat. We know that, but Top 5 in the state is a stretch only because you know there are kids in Louisville that will come out of nowhere or maybe are playing on school teams that nobody even knows about yet.

 

On the Tar Heel issue, thats sad. Its really too bad that parents hang their own hat on the accomplishments of their kids and would let any conflict be shown at a sporting event. To take him out of the game and leave, what does that say to his teammates? If this kid is not a headcase by the time he reaches high school, he could be really good. However, as seen many times, kids dominate in Jr. Pro and AAU and then go onto troubled lives. I hope for the best because he is a very good player.

Congrats to the Wolfpack for their wins this weekend especially over the Knights. But isnt that the 5th grade Knights? At one point, wasnt Moeves a 6th grader last year?

 

McGovney is a very fine player, he has very good skills and is a gym rat. We know that, but Top 5 in the state is a stretch only because you know there are kids in Louisville that will come out of nowhere or maybe are playing on school teams that nobody even knows about yet.

 

On the Tar Heel issue, thats sad. Its really too bad that parents hang their own hat on the accomplishments of their kids and would let any conflict be shown at a sporting event. To take him out of the game and leave, what does that say to his teammates? If this kid is not a headcase by the time he reaches high school, he could be really good. However, as seen many times, kids dominate in Jr. Pro and AAU and then go onto troubled lives. I hope for the best because he is a very good player.

 

 

First off, The 5th grade Knights have beaten the 6th grade Tarheels last year and only lost to the Central Ky Warriors by 3 twice. They are the real deal. And they have 4 kids older than 5 of the players on the Wolfpack. Tanner Moeves is a June birthday and he was held back this year. He is a grade exception by 75 days.

 

As for McGovney, time will tell and we will circle back in a couple of years. As for Hatton, this has been brewing for sometime, based on my understanding and speaking with a close family member. I watched, as well as other parents, Pouncy and Ryan last year cuss him up and down last year during two games because he was missing shots. That will change the landscape of the 6th grade and the Tarheels if he were to play for someone else, which I think is highly doubtful.

You mean to tell me that a school allowed a kid to be held back for no reason other than athletic purposes? In my opinion, the grade exceptions are an absolute joke in and of themselves. By the way, what is the cutoff date for determining a kids age?

You mean to tell me that a school allowed a kid to be held back for no reason other than athletic purposes? In my opinion, the grade exceptions are an absolute joke in and of themselves. By the way, what is the cutoff date for determining a kids age?

 

I'm not sure what the reasons were why his parents and the school allowed him to be held back. I can tell you that knowing the education system in Kentucky, no public school would allow any child to be held back, just because. Especially for just athletic purposes, no way.

 

The cutoff date is 9/1 of every year. You can go onto the AAU website and check the age calculator.

Age exceptions make it very difficult for the kids that are younger in their own age group. My son has an April birthday so he played last season in the 12U only being 11 and obviously playing 13U now and only 12. No advantage there I can tell you but I am hoping by the time he hits high school it wont matter. To put it in perspective, he is exactly one birth year older than the 5th grade Hoge kid. To the day to be exact, but he is in the 7th grade. I am sure if I held him back he would be having a feild day in the 12U but for me to inform him that I am holding him back at this point in time, he would laugh at me and say no way Dad, basketball isnt that important. To each his own though. I can tell you that If I knew back before starting him in Kindergarten what I know today I probably would have held him back but to hold a kid back later on, that is suspect.

 

Its going on all around the state. The 6'1 Portwood kid who was top player last year as 6th grader is in the 6th grade again. Hatton is another kid who is repeating a grade. At the end of the day if the kid gets a full ride to college and goes onto lead a productive life then it worked out. If nothing happens after high school then I guess the kid can wear that AAU State Champion T-shirt to pickup games at the park.

Its going on all around the state. The 6'1 Portwood kid who was top player last year as 6th grader is in the 6th grade again. Hatton is another kid who is repeating a grade.

 

Although Portwood is in 6th grade, he will still play with the 7th grade Thunder. He might end up playing in state and nationals with a 6th grade team. Hatton was held back last year, but he also is one that competes just fine in the 7th grade (last year 6th) level. Snider from Louisville started for the Cincy Playmakers last year as a 6th grade, but has been held back and is in 6th again.

 

Parents hold kids back for many reasons -- some sports, some grades and some maturity. I agree with with qryche11, I wouldn't hold my son back but I think it is wrong for others to cast stones at parents who do. It is their right to do what they feel is best for their child.

 

As far as teams with grade exceptions, let's face it, the top teams in the nation have their full compliment of 3. The Ville, who won the state of KY and finished top 10 in the nation, has 3. Georgetown Thunder had its first grade exception ever last year and now have 2 on the team this year. Until they have a division within AAU that doesn't allow grade exceptions, it will always happen.

Age exceptions make it very difficult for the kids that are younger in their own age group. My son has an April birthday so he played last season in the 12U only being 11 and obviously playing 13U now and only 12. No advantage there I can tell you but I am hoping by the time he hits high school it wont matter. To put it in perspective, he is exactly one birth year older than the 5th grade Hoge kid. To the day to be exact, but he is in the 7th grade. I am sure if I held him back he would be having a feild day in the 12U but for me to inform him that I am holding him back at this point in time, he would laugh at me and say no way Dad, basketball isnt that important. To each his own though. I can tell you that If I knew back before starting him in Kindergarten what I know today I probably would have held him back but to hold a kid back later on, that is suspect.

 

Its going on all around the state. The 6'1 Portwood kid who was top player last year as 6th grader is in the 6th grade again. Hatton is another kid who is repeating a grade. At the end of the day if the kid gets a full ride to college and goes onto lead a productive life then it worked out. If nothing happens after high school then I guess the kid can wear that AAU State Champion T-shirt to pickup games at the park.

 

 

I think you may need to keep your nose out of why kids in 6th grade are in 6th grade again, at least dont name names. Unless you are speaking of your own children. We are talking about 12 year old kids, some of which do have behavior, academic, and maturity issues....there is more to life than the roundball!

If a child is held back for reasons that will help them develop better academically, behaviorally or for maturation reasons then I think it is fine. Its when they are held back so they can dominate a particular division in sports is what I question. These are facts and these are kids that are already exposed through AAU basketball which is the thread title. Waterboy, I am glad that you agree with me though in that there is more to life than roundball. If you go back and read the last couple sentences of my last thread, that was clearly my point.

Although Portwood is in 6th grade, he will still play with the 7th grade Thunder. He might end up playing in state and nationals with a 6th grade team. Hatton was held back last year, but he also is one that competes just fine in the 7th grade (last year 6th) level. Snider from Louisville started for the Cincy Playmakers last year as a 6th grade, but has been held back and is in 6th again.

 

Parents hold kids back for many reasons -- some sports, some grades and some maturity. I agree with with qryche11, I wouldn't hold my son back but I think it is wrong for others to cast stones at parents who do. It is their right to do what they feel is best for their child.

 

As far as teams with grade exceptions, let's face it, the top teams in the nation have their full compliment of 3. The Ville, who won the state of KY and finished top 10 in the nation, has 3. Georgetown Thunder had its first grade exception ever last year and now have 2 on the team this year. Until they have a division within AAU that doesn't allow grade exceptions, it will always happen.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head here. If you choose to compete at the Div 1 National level you will need to get your full compliment of Age exceptions. If they allow you to do it, why wouldnt you do it.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. If you choose to compete at the Div 1 National level you will need to get your full compliment of Age exceptions. If they allow you to do it, why wouldnt you do it.

 

Exemptions are for both Division I and II. AAU doesn't make an exception to one division or the other. If you are going to play AAU, you have to understand that and not complain about exemptions. The rules and guidelines are in place for everyone. There are AAU guidelines I don't like, but they have to be taken with the ones I do like. That's a part of sport and life, you take the good with the bad.

 

Also, I think maturity is one of the best reasons to hold a kid back. I graduated high school being 17 years and 4 months old. I probably grew an inch and a half and added 20 lbs of muscle over the summer after graduation. I also know that "my brain functions" would have been more mature as well.

Exemptions are for both Division I and II. AAU doesn't make an exception to one division or the other. If you are going to play AAU, you have to understand that and not complain about exemptions. The rules and guidelines are in place for everyone. There are AAU guidelines I don't like, but they have to be taken with the ones I do like. That's a part of sport and life, you take the good with the bad.

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I don't think the point was that exceptions are allowed in Div 1 only. We know they are allowed in both divisions. But, the point was the top teams in Div 1 especially are the ones that use their full compliment of grade exceptions and those grade exceptions are usually the best players on the team. There will be teams in 7th grade with kids that already have turned 14 potentially playing against kids who don't turn 13 until the summer. This is not to say there is anything wrong with it, because there is not. This is just a fact.

Exemptions are for both Division I and II. AAU doesn't make an exception to one division or the other. If you are going to play AAU, you have to understand that and not complain about exemptions. The rules and guidelines are in place for everyone. There are AAU guidelines I don't like, but they have to be taken with the ones I do like. That's a part of sport and life, you take the good with the bad.

 

Also, I think maturity is one of the best reasons to hold a kid back. I graduated high school being 17 years and 4 months old. I probably grew an inch and a half and added 20 lbs of muscle over the summer after graduation. I also know that "my brain functions" would have been more mature as well.

 

I certainly dont want to go back on my take aboiut holding kids back late in the game but I will concede and say that I understand that there are times when kids are not mature enough to move to the next grade. I see that currently with a kid on our 7th grade team who just turned 12 and is 6'1 185lbs and technically should be held back. Just a happy go lucky kid who hasnt matured yet but physically is very mature. Maybe that is contradicting myself here but I thought I would atleast mention it.

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