Rocket, don't expect to sway you cause your concern is the good times you can have. Same concerns I had when I was young, your age and my concerns was me, me, me, my friends, and me.

 

Now, that I have had close to 20 years of teaching and dealing with families that their kids are horrible and ruined by the vices that their parents CANNOT stay away from, it horrifies me that our government is saying, HEY, it is a GREAT idea to make it EVEN EASIER for people to ruin their lives.

No need to be condescending to Rocket for stating his views. Age has nothing to do with it.

 

As for this huge number of screwed up families we're always hearing about, maybe someone needs to be teaching them and their children about personal responsibility.

No need to be condescending to Rocket for stating his views. Age has nothing to do with it.

 

As for this huge number of screwed up families we're always hearing about, maybe someone needs to be teaching them and their children about personal responsibility.

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Exactly!!

Breakdown of possible senate vote so far.

I have NEVER seen the government say that prayer to God is bad. And I mean NEVER. This is a charge made by those that are upset that tax supported schools are prevented from using tax dollars to coerce people into their brand of religion. I have never seen anyone try to prevent people from praying in school. I wanted my children to be exposed to a specific religion in school so I paid for it. I won't pay my tax dollars to have kids exposed to someone elses religion. If you want school sponsored prayer in school, find a school or start a school.

 

I posted a thread on here many moons ago from a piece on, I believe, Indiana or Ohio, legislature that said that if a minister was going to mention Jesus Christ, then they were not allowed to open the session with their prayer. If they wanted to say a prayer, they had to so without mentioning Jesus Christ name.

 

Funny, that saying a prayer with the name Jesus Christ in it to open one daily session of legislature is something so bad that it would rock our very existence and we cannot allow that.

 

But, allowing a person to lose their paycheck at a casino is a great thing.

No need to be condescending to Rocket for stating his views. Age has nothing to do with it.

 

As for this huge number of screwed up families we're always hearing about, maybe someone needs to be teaching them and their children about personal responsibility.

 

And his post to me, generalizing my concerns as some sort of right wing generalizing. Just because I am a CHristian, no need to condescend to me that I am just a right winger that wants no one to ever have any fun.

Saw on the news this morning that Indiana has the 2nd highest bankruptcy rate in the US. I believe that was what the blurb said.

 

In 2004, it did too. Casinos, good thing for the bankruptcy lawyers in the state.

http://www.bcsalliance.com/bankruptcy_statestats.html

As of 2004, the average national bankruptcy filing rate is that 380 people out of every 100,000 will file bankruptcy. Indiana's rate was 690. Close to double the national average.

 

Hearsay and Atticus, better brush up on your bankruptcy practices if this passes in November. History shows that government gets more money to not spend correctly and individuals begin to lose everything and have to go to bankruptcy.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2007/jul/06/indiana-bankruptcy-filings-rise-first-half-2007/?ebj=1/

Southern and central Indiana residents filed 7,694 petitions through the end of June with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court of the Southern District of Indiana, which covers the state south of Kokomo. That represents a 68 percent increase from the 4,570 filings recorded last year.

Saw on the news this morning that Indiana has the 2nd highest bankruptcy rate in the US. I believe that was what the blurb said.

 

In 2004, it did too. Casinos, good thing for the bankruptcy lawyers in the state.

http://www.bcsalliance.com/bankruptcy_statestats.html

As of 2004, the average national bankruptcy filing rate is that 380 people out of every 100,000 will file bankruptcy. Indiana's rate was 690. Close to double the national average.

 

Hearsay and Atticus, better brush up on your bankruptcy practices if this passes in November. History shows that government gets more money to not spend correctly and individuals begin to lose everything and have to go to bankruptcy.

 

Researchers and bankruptcy experts have tried to find out why some states, such as Missouri, Indiana and Nevada, have bankruptcy filing rates that are double the national average while other states, such as South Carolina, Texas, and Alaska have such low bankruptcy filing rates. There has not been a clear connection found.

 

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Gambling: One might wonder if Missouri and Nevada's high bankruptcy rate might be due in part to the exceptional number of gambling venues and casinos available in these states. Researchers cannot pinpoint how many bankruptcies are due to gambling since most gamblers use credit card advances to fund their habit and this is not listed in their bankruptcy papers. But even if this were true, it doesn't help explain why Utah (a Mormon state with high median incomes and little gambling) is one of the states with the highest bankruptcy filing rates).

I posted a thread on here many moons ago from a piece on, I believe, Indiana or Ohio, legislature that said that if a minister was going to mention Jesus Christ, then they were not allowed to open the session with their prayer. If they wanted to say a prayer, they had to so without mentioning Jesus Christ name.

 

Funny, that saying a prayer with the name Jesus Christ in it to open one daily session of legislature is something so bad that it would rock our very existence and we cannot allow that.

 

But, allowing a person to lose their paycheck at a casino is a great thing.

 

But there was nothing to prevent every member of the legislature from praying to the God of their choice. It is all about STATE sponsorship of religion. I went to an eagle scout ceremony one time. It was for our two sons. The ceremony was held in a Catholic church. Our parish priest was there to give the invocation. Before the ceremony he asked me about the religious make-up of the scouts. I told him that most were Catholic, but a few were Protestant. He asked if there were any non Christians. As far as I knew there weren't. He sais that he tailored his prayer based on the audience. This was his church building. He could say anything he wanted, but he understood freedom of religion and more importantly, he understood respect for the religious views of others.

Could Indiana's high bankruptcy rate have anything to do with the fact that it is a farming state, and small family farms are losing their shirts right and left?

Could Indiana's high bankruptcy rate have anything to do with the fact that it is a farming state, and small family farms are losing their shirts right and left?

 

at the casinos?????

Not with "W" as pres

 

Better go back and brush up on your grade school government lessons.

I would like a vote on it but I just have great doubts that it will get through the senate. If it ever does there will be a real shoot out with those against the casinos. Beshear may be gone if and when the vote ever comes to pass. Ohio is also looking into casinos which obviously will have an additional impact on KY's.

at the casinos?????

 

Ummm, no. Mortgages and foreclosures, kind of like the Mellencamp song. Sure, gambling may be a part of it, but to act like that's the only one — especially in light of Utah's inclusion on the list — is very presumptuous.

What about those that work at the casino's? Both of my college roommates parents worked as dealers at Casino Aztar in Evansville and they both made very good money. They drove there from Crittenden Co. daily.

 

When John Bays owned the Executive Inn in Owensboro and was pushing for legalizing gambling, he was promising 1000+ jobs starting at $15.00 hr. That type of starting pay is not found easily in Owensboro.