October 15, 200718 yr Really does it? If my degree says Morehead St., UK, or Louisville does it mean I am dumber than someone from Harvard, Yale, or Notre Dame?
October 16, 200718 yr Really does it? If my degree says Morehead St., UK, or Louisville does it mean I am dumber than someone from Harvard, Yale, or Notre Dame? In this example, the answer is most likely yes. But, remember, "dumber" is relative and not absolute.
October 16, 200718 yr The name value and prestige of an Ivy League carries a lot of weight... If 2 guys were fairly evenly qualified and one graduated from Princeton and one graduated from University of Phoenix, who is going to get the nod?
October 16, 200718 yr If you're not talking a Ivy League schools and just regular public schools then I think the answer is no.
October 16, 200718 yr If you're not talking a Ivy League schools and just regular public schools then I think the answer is no. You cannot make a general statement like that. You have to take into account the actual program involved.
October 16, 200718 yr If you're not talking a Ivy League schools and just regular public schools then I think the answer is no. The larger issue is the alumni network involved. That plays as much as anything.
October 16, 200718 yr Really does it? If my degree says Morehead St., UK, or Louisville does it mean I am dumber than someone from Harvard, Yale, or Notre Dame? No, it doesn't mean your dumber...all schools have standards to meet. No matter where you go you have to apply yourself in order to earn a degree. I have worked with people who have degrees from Harvard, Yale, MIT, night community college, on-line programs...guess what they all worked together. The important thing is get the degree and know what you are doing.
October 16, 200718 yr Author In this example, the answer is most likely yes. But, remember, "dumber" is relative and not absolute. Really? Explain.
October 16, 200718 yr I would say there is no difference b/w a Murray State Degree and a UK or UL, but if you comparing to an IVY league then there is, however, what about degrees like a difference b/w say Murray State and Mid Continent or something, any diff there?
October 16, 200718 yr I am assuming that this thread was not started with a rather large chip on anyone's shoulder. "Dumber" is not defined. If "dumb" is defined through the effort necessary to achieve good grades and test scores in high school, than objectively, yes, one who attends Murray State because they were unable to be accepted at UK or attended UK because they were unable to be accepted at Centre more than likely means they are dumber (using the definition) than another student who is accepted. And that is not an effort to knock the chip off. If "dumber" is instead defined as capacity for worldly sucess, than they have absolutely no relation to one another. I know millionaire plumbers who never attended college, could not finish a single history lesson, but can market their skills better than anyone I know and who drive Lincoln Navigators whilst I cruise around in my Ford Escape. The undergraduate degree you get and from what institution it comes plays a large factor in employer's decisions to hire, and that fact is quanitifiable and has been tested. There is evidence to suggest that the undergraduate degree importance is being diminished in the Internet age, but we are not there yet. There are individualized employers with strong ties to specific schools and that fact cannot be underscored.
October 16, 200718 yr Really? Explain. I have to explain? My boy gets his Finance degree from UK. Your boy gets his Finance degree from Harvard or Penn. Wall Street is hiring. Who looks better? Who is LIKELY smarter? Who is LIKELY to have taken more difficult classes? Your question was "does it matter?" The answer is , in many cases, yes. It says nothing about one's ability to do the job. Its simply a matter of an employer taking a chance on an unproven commodity and going with the one from the "better" institution. Elementary.
October 16, 200718 yr The larger issue is the alumni network involved. That plays as much as anything. I agree. Also it may help if you graduated form the same University as the company CEO. Your field of study in relation to the type of job you are applying for can be a differnce maker as well.
October 16, 200718 yr Author I have to explain? My boy gets his Finance degree from UK. Your boy gets his Finance degree from Harvard or Penn. Wall Street is hiring. Who looks better? Who is LIKELY smarter? Who is LIKELY to have taken more difficult classes? Your question was "does it matter?" The answer is , in many cases, yes. It says nothing about one's ability to do the job. Its simply a matter of an employer taking a chance on an unproven commodity and going with the one from the "better" institution. Elementary. So depending on the job, or level of job being applied for.
October 16, 200718 yr Author I am assuming that this thread was not started with a rather large chip on anyone's shoulder. "Dumber" is not defined. If "dumb" is defined through the effort necessary to achieve good grades and test scores in high school, than objectively, yes, one who attends Murray State because they were unable to be accepted at UK or attended UK because they were unable to be accepted at Centre more than likely means they are dumber (using the definition) than another student who is accepted. And that is not an effort to knock the chip off. If "dumber" is instead defined as capacity for worldly sucess, than they have absolutely no relation to one another. I know millionaire plumbers who never attended college, could not finish a single history lesson, but can market their skills better than anyone I know and who drive Lincoln Navigators whilst I cruise around in my Ford Escape. The undergraduate degree you get and from what institution it comes plays a large factor in employer's decisions to hire, and that fact is quanitifiable and has been tested. There is evidence to suggest that the undergraduate degree importance is being diminished in the Internet age, but we are not there yet. There are individualized employers with strong ties to specific schools and that fact cannot be underscored. No chip at all. I just see kids in some areas sweating over I got accepted to here but no there and I was just wondering if in this day and age it mattered. Funny story though, I got accepted to almost every single school that I applied to, including a full ride to tO$U, WVU, PSU, Ga.TECH,and a few Ivy League schools, EXCEPT one, and that was UK.
October 16, 200718 yr This is a no brainer: EKU degree It is a matter of admissions standards and the overall quality of learning at the institution.
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