To some, yes you are their parents. You are the best adult role models they have. For some, you are the only adult that truly cares about their growth and maturity and what type of person they are going to become. For some, they so much NEED you to be their parents.

 

4 hours a day for 5 months doesn't cut it...

 

If these kids don't get the structure they need for the first 15 years of their life it's tough to make a dent in a couple of 5 month periods...

 

Just saying...

4 hours a day for 5 months doesn't cut it...

 

If these kids don't get the structure they need for the first 15 years of their life it's tough to make a dent in a couple of 5 month periods...

 

Just saying...

I agree with you.

 

But you know as well as I do what I say is true. For some, the coach is the best adult role model they have and they are desparately seeking Susan....I mean a positive role model.

 

And all we can do as coaches is be the best role model that we can. And I don't think cussing, when we can simply choose other words and still get our point across is doing that.

 

I have been accused of being too mean, too harsh and too strict and I haven't uttered a cussword in a practice or game for 13 years.

 

This year, I told my players that I am a loud person and at times they may think I am yelling at them and I am not. Just a loud person. One player asked, "How will we know the difference?" I assured her that she would.

 

When that ONLY day of the season came and their effort stunk and I was upset with them, I asked her afterwards whether she knew the difference. She said, "Yep, no doubt they knew I was upset and not simply being loud." And yet, I never cussed a cussword.

 

I think coaches can do it without cussing but use them as a crutch.

 

Let me ask it this way. Would you like it for your boss to call you in and cuss you about your effort? Why are kids different?

I agree with you.

 

But you know as well as I do what I say is true. For some, the coach is the best adult role model they have and they are desparately seeking Susan....I mean a positive role model.

 

And all we can do as coaches is be the best role model that we can. And I don't think cussing, when we can simply choose other words and still get our point across is doing that.

 

I have been accused of being too mean, too harsh and too strict and I haven't uttered a cussword in a practice or game for 13 years.

 

This year, I told my players that I am a loud person and at times they may think I am yelling at them and I am not. Just a loud person. One player asked, "How will we know the difference?" I assured her that she would.

 

When that ONLY day of the season came and their effort stunk and I was upset with them, I asked her afterwards whether she knew the difference. She said, "Yep, no doubt they knew I was upset and not simply being loud." And yet, I never cussed a cussword.

 

I think coaches can do it without cussing but use them as a crutch.

 

Let me ask it this way. Would you like it for your boss to call you in and cuss you about your effort? Why are kids different?

 

LBBC, I am right with you on your position on this issue. 100%

Coaches and cursing is gonna happen. But you can get your point across without dropping the F-Bomb or calling a kid a SOB. It's worse when you also have younger children there with their parents who are waiting to pick up their older kids from baseball practice.

 

Coach Marks works hard on and off the field. Congratulations to him as he was recently named Principal at St. Peter & Paul next school year.

And as a coach, you couldn't get your point across with a tersely said,

"You're playing like crap." "that was not much effort, in fact it was a crappy effort. And I expect much more from you."

 

If you are allowed to cuss while directing comments to the players, are the players allowed to cuss while directing comments to you? If no, why not? Is it a sign of respect for them to not use cuss words while talking to you? Do they not deserve the same respect?

 

I fight this battle HOURLY in my classroom. The students feel they should be allowed to cuss in their daily language. So I have strong and firmly rooted beliefs on teenagers and cussing.

No, players are not allowed to cuss, when directing comments toward coaches.

 

I often use comments, like you suggested about the effort. I also say, let's kick their -- tonight. I use the word crap, to describe play and I also tell the team, I'm tired of this -- effort they are giving. For the record, I don't claim to be perfect.

 

Athletic field and classroom, mix like church and cheering at a basketball game....not even a comparison.

 

As for the original topic, I've still not seen why this Hoptwon coach resigned.

 

Coaches and cursing is gonna happen. But you can get your point across without dropping the F-Bomb or calling a kid a SOB. It's worse when you also have younger children there with their parents who are waiting to pick up their older kids from baseball practice.

 

Coach Marks works hard on and off the field. Congratulations to him as he was recently named Principal at St. Peter & Paul next school year.

Cuss words, directly specifically at kids, like you mentioned can NEVER happen.

Coaches and cursing is gonna happen. But you can get your point across without dropping the F-Bomb or calling a kid a SOB. It's worse when you also have younger children there with their parents who are waiting to pick up their older kids from baseball practice.

 

Coach Marks works hard on and off the field. Congratulations to him as he was recently named Principal at St. Peter & Paul next school year.

I vehemently disagree. Again, I cussed once when I was a young coach, 3rd year coaching and at the age of 26. Soon realized that I didn't need to do that and shouldn't do that, since I wasn't allowed nor should cuss at my students for giving a poor effort, why would I think it was okay to cuss at my players.

 

Haven't cussed in the 15 years since then. So I disagree that coaches and cursing is going to happen. I PERSONALLY grew up and realized that I didn't need to do it. And my players will say they never had a problem realizing when I was mad and not going to accept their effort.

I agree with you.

 

But you know as well as I do what I say is true. For some, the coach is the best adult role model they have and they are desparately seeking Susan....I mean a positive role model.

 

And all we can do as coaches is be the best role model that we can. And I don't think cussing, when we can simply choose other words and still get our point across is doing that.

 

I have been accused of being too mean, too harsh and too strict and I haven't uttered a cussword in a practice or game for 13 years.

 

This year, I told my players that I am a loud person and at times they may think I am yelling at them and I am not. Just a loud person. One player asked, "How will we know the difference?" I assured her that she would.

 

When that ONLY day of the season came and their effort stunk and I was upset with them, I asked her afterwards whether she knew the difference. She said, "Yep, no doubt they knew I was upset and not simply being loud." And yet, I never cussed a cussword.

 

I think coaches can do it without cussing but use them as a crutch.

 

Let me ask it this way. Would you like it for your boss to call you in and cuss you about your effort? Why are kids different?

 

As for your question and this situation, it depends. There's a difference in cussing at someone and cussing when speaking to someone. I've been told to 'Do the dang thing right!' at work before and didn't get too offended...

 

As long as a kid is not directly cussing at someone, about someone or loud enough for 'outsiders' to hear...there are bigger fish, IMO...

I've seen players throw bats, gloves, helmets and I've seen coaches argue with Umpires, yell at players, kick dirt and cuss....they are all disrespectful, when occurring but they happen.

 

I assign no more value, to either of the above.

I hate that cliche.

 

Its actually French for "you're freaking wrong!";)

Let me ask it this way. Would you like it for your boss to call you in and cuss you about your effort? Why are kids different?

 

Would I "like" it? Hell no. However, I'd handle it and not demand that my boss be fired.

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I PERSONALLY grew up .

 

A shot against those of us that occasionally do not use the Queen's english?

Here's the real issue: Should a coach be fired for cussing - regardless of what he said?

A shot against those of us that occasionally do not use the Queen's english?

Actually I capitalized personally hoping that you would see it was MY SITUATION and not everyone's. I was immature and thought it made me someone I was not. That is my situation and only mine. Other's have other situations and reasons why they cuss.

Here's the real issue: Should a coach be fired for cussing - regardless of what he said?

If their boss had instructed them to not cuss during the performance of their duties, yes. Otherwise no.

If their boss had instructed them to not cuss during the performance of their duties, yes. Otherwise no.

 

Fine. So we agree.