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Hoptown coach suspended for season

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Apparently, some parents weren't happy with the language used by the head coach.

 

LINK (scroll halfway down)

 

How many coaches would be on the sidelines statewide if every school enforced this?

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I guess it depends on a)how it was used and b)what was actually said and c)how often.

Link did not work for me.

 

Assuming their was cussing involved, I see no reason that a HS student or lower needs to be cussed at. If you cannot get your point across without cussing at them, you really need to look at your manner of coaching.

 

Do you really need to say a cussword to make your point? Is that the only way you know how to get your point across?

Shoot, we have more problems with the kids than the coaches...

I didn't see the article, so I'm not sure why.

 

To answer LBBC....NO, a player does not need to be "cussed". I've seen others and used words myself, when talking to a player. Not cussing him but certainly using those words. For example....A player didn't run out an infield pop-up, which dropped but was picked up and thrown to first. I believe the comment I used, was "that wasn't much effort, a matter of fact it was a -- effort".

 

I don't know many coaches, who would directly say...."you this or you that or you're playing like...." but I know many, who watch a player take a 3rd strike, not hustle, talk back and make mental errors, only to let some words fly.

 

Not condoning it, but part of the game and motivation, works in many ways and fails, in some also.

 

Shoot, we have more problems with the kids than the coaches...
Yes and that will result, in running or sitting....even sent to the bus, for me. We inherited a kid, who liked to "burp" a few years ago, loud as he could. Did it once, was punished and warned....Did it a second time, now he runs track.
I didn't see the article, so I'm not sure why.

 

To answer LBBC....NO, a player does not need to be "cussed". I've seen others and used words myself, when talking to a player. Not cussing him but certainly using those words. For example....A player didn't run out an infield pop-up, which dropped but was picked up and thrown to first. I believe the comment I used, was "that wasn't much effort, a matter of fact it was a -- effort".

 

I don't know many coaches, who would directly say...."you this or you that or you're playing like...." but I know many, who watch a player take a 3rd strike, not hustle, talk back and make mental errors, only to let some words fly.

 

Not condoning it, but part of the game and motivation, works in many ways and fails, in some also.

 

Yes and that will result, in running or sitting....even sent to the bus, for me. We inherited a kid, who liked to "burp" a few years ago, loud as he could. Did it once, was punished and warned....Did it a second time, now he runs track.

 

 

 

 

:laugh: :D :thumb:

I didn't see the article, so I'm not sure why.

 

To answer LBBC....NO, a player does not need to be "cussed". I've seen others and used words myself, when talking to a player. Not cussing him but certainly using those words. For example....A player didn't run out an infield pop-up, which dropped but was picked up and thrown to first. I believe the comment I used, was "that wasn't much effort, a matter of fact it was a -- effort".

 

I don't know many coaches, who would directly say...."you this or you that or you're playing like...." but I know many, who watch a player take a 3rd strike, not hustle, talk back and make mental errors, only to let some words fly.

 

Not condoning it, but part of the game and motivation, works in many ways and fails, in some also.

 

Yes and that will result, in running or sitting....even sent to the bus, for me. We inherited a kid, who liked to "burp" a few years ago, loud as he could. Did it once, was punished and warned....Did it a second time, now he runs track.

And as a coach, you couldn't get your point across with a tersely said,

"You're playing like crap." "that was not much effort, in fact it was a crappy effort. And I expect much more from you."

 

If you are allowed to cuss while directing comments to the players, are the players allowed to cuss while directing comments to you? If no, why not? Is it a sign of respect for them to not use cuss words while talking to you? Do they not deserve the same respect?

 

I fight this battle HOURLY in my classroom. The students feel they should be allowed to cuss in their daily language. So I have strong and firmly rooted beliefs on teenagers and cussing.

There is absolutely no need to swear at players to express displeasure, to get your point across, or anything else. One can be stern, strict, and downright intimidating without swearing. Does that mean that I have never used foul language in my life? No. However, I have never used it toward players when I coached, or toward any of my children. If you HAVE to swear to motivate a kid, one should probably question either a) the coach's motivational techniques or b) the motivation of the kid to keep playing.

If you are allowed to cuss while directing comments to the players, are the players allowed to cuss while directing comments to you? If no, why not? Is it a sign of respect for them to not use cuss words while talking to you? Do they not deserve the same respect?

 

I.

 

Why not? How about this: Because I said so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seemed to work for my dad when I was younger.

 

Really, cussing, while obviously not necessary, is not a big deal in all cases. Maybe this coach had some serious issues. K3's example is harmless. Many of us have had coaches who threw some words around we wouldn't use on Sunday morning but we all survived, right? Sometimes good coaches cuss. Period.

There is absolutely no need to swear at players to express displeasure, to get your point across, or anything else. One can be stern, strict, and downright intimidating without swearing. Does that mean that I have never used foul language in my life? No. However, I have never used it toward players when I coached, or toward any of my children. If you HAVE to swear to motivate a kid, one should probably question either a) the coach's motivational techniques or b) the motivation of the kid to keep playing.

 

You're making a big generalization. All cussing is not created equally.

Why not? How about this: Because I said so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seemed to work for my dad when I was younger.

 

Really, cussing, while obviously not necessary, is not a big deal in all cases. Maybe this coach had some serious issues. K3's example is harmless. Many of us have had coaches who threw some words around we wouldn't use on Sunday morning but we all survived, right? Sometimes good coaches cuss. Period.

Another whole issue but who you are on Sunday morning should be who you are the other times of the week, month, year, life.

 

Yeah, we did survive but we learned it is okay to cuss at our children too, because the adult that I RESPECTED as a kid did it, so it must mean it's okay. And it is not.

 

And today's kid doesn't do it "Because I said so." As a public school educator for finishing up my 18th year and coach for 15 of those 18 years, I can attest to that.

Another whole issue but who you are on Sunday morning should be who you are the other times of the week, month, year, life.

 

Yeah, we did survive but we learned it is okay to cuss at our children too, because the adult that I RESPECTED as a kid did it, so it must mean it's okay. And it is not.

 

I think this falls under the ol' cliche of "agree to disagree."

We're not their parents...

To some, yes you are their parents. You are the best adult role models they have. For some, you are the only adult that truly cares about their growth and maturity and what type of person they are going to become. For some, they so much NEED you to be their parents.

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