I say it, even have in under my avatar....Teaching the game, is not equating to educational teaching.

 

A High School athletic team is prepared, to compete to Win and not to Lose. Students are educated, to retain knowledge, develop understandings and increase intelligence....not to Win a contest.

 

Teaching, derives many definitions....One can be taught to crochet, play the piano, be a mechanic, paint a house, speak languages, but they don't involve competition to Win.

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I kind of hinted at this earlier. Coaches coach. They teach the game.....and MAYBE some life lessons along the way. But last I checked nowhere in a coaching contract does it say educate the athlete on proper morals and etiquitte. And it shouldn't (in fact that may get you in hot water some places :lol: ). There is a big difference between a coach, whose primary job function is to prepare his/her athletes as best he can for competition, and a teacher, whose primary job function is to, as K3 put it "educate, develop knowledge retention, develop understandings, and increase intelligence.

 

I'll even take it a step further. Baseball coaches literally make cents on the hour. And yet we are going to place them on this moral pedestal? I'm with you LBBC, I personally don't think it is necessary, but at the same time at some level I do see that it does have a place in the world of athletic competition.

 

Let me ask it this way, as a teacher should I use such language in the classroom? I have player A as a student. Are you saying it would be wrong for me to say the exact same thing in the classroom to motivate him that I would say on the field. Something like, "That is a (BEEP) effort on that (play/assignment)."

 

Like the coach, I'd have no problem with it if handled properly at the high school level. The best teacher I ever had at Conner would occasionally use minor curse words for effect and it worked.

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I kind of hinted at this earlier. Coaches coach. They teach the game.....and MAYBE some life lessons along the way. But last I checked nowhere in a coaching contract does it say educate the athlete on proper morals and etiquitte. And it shouldn't (in fact that may get you in hot water some places :lol: ). There is a big difference between a coach, whose primary job function is to prepare his/her athletes as best he can for competition, and a teacher, whose primary job function is to, as K3 put it "educate, develop knowledge retention, develop understandings, and increase intelligence.

 

I'll even take it a step further. Baseball coaches literally make cents on the hour. And yet we are going to place them on this moral pedestal? I'm with you LBBC, I personally don't think it is necessary, but at the same time at some level I do see that it does have a place in the world of athletic competition.

 

Surely you are not saying that if they got paid more, the morals should be more or be expected to have better morals.

 

I don't think pay has an iota to do with the character that you would expect of the coach.

Surely you are not saying that if they got paid more, the morals should be more or be expected to have better morals.

 

I don't think pay has an iota to do with the character that you would expect of the coach.

I AM saying that in coaching, as in life, you get what you pay for. Let me put it to you this way, say you start imposing all these threats and restrictions on coaches. What then? Many of your smaller schools already have trouble getting coaches for all of their sports. What your telling me is that you would tell the guy who cuts your lawn for free that he needs to wear a uniform when he does it? Or that he needs to watch his language? See what I'm saying? Coaches everywhere are increasingly put under the microscope, scrutinized by parents, media, etc. At what point do we begin to lose quality individuals as coaches? IMHO its a very slippery slop when you begin to take a moral stance as a public school.

Idk I cannot help but think that many are over analyzing the situation. They arent exactly kids they are teenagers. Cussing unfortunately is part of everyday life for teenagers now a days. Look at all of the major influences on teens and you will see cussing. It's one thing for a person to cuss while trying to motivate a team. Its another if the coach told one of the players he was a piece of --- or that he was a ----- or some other sort. Its quite the other if he said Lets beat the --- out of these guys. Hit that --- up the middle. Etc etc.

 

 

OK, so what's your point? Is cussing OK? It's OK to cuss as an adult?