Agreed. I already deal with some younger players choosing NOT to participate in freshman because they want to play with the local teams. This ruling does affect smaller schools if they are trying to field freshman teams using 8th and sometimes 7th graders to help fill the rosters.

Here is a concern, 'lil Johnny starts out in MS/JV or Varsity program and doesn't play much, but elects to leave and play summer/youth Baseball.....Is he allowed?

 

I see it happening, or even vice-versa, then must quit summer ball. I'll see what I can find, on the exact wording. This will be a heated discussion, several times by many, in '08.

The real issue is more with select ball than knothole. Select teams start playing, even at 13 and 14 and under in March. Those kids could also be playing HS ball.

Where is little Bobby more likely to get the most playing time?

 

I have seen kids just get stars in their eyes, and Moms and Dads puff up with pride that little Bobby has made his High School baseball team as an eighth grader or, God forbid, as a seventh grader. Then when it comes to the season the kids that are actual freshman get all the "In-Game" playing time. All the while Bobby is riden the pine. Oh sure, he's getting the experience practicing with the big boys. But for his development as a player there is know substitute for "In-Game" experience.

 

JMO - But you are doing more harm to that kids potential as a player, by letting him ride the pine as an eighth grader than what he will ever gain by being up there with the "Big Boys".

 

Again, JMO. Put him on a select team, an AAU team, a little league team, a Babe-Ruth team, a knot hole team or whatever team that will get him the most "In-Game" experience. That's what's best for the kid. It's not as good for Moms, Dads or the kids ego, but it will get the kid better prepared to compete at the next level. So that when the kid becomes a true freshman he has the confidence to compete for and beat out Johnnie for that position on the freshman team.

 

Put the kid on the team to get the most playing time on the field.

Giving this more thought, this wouldn't effect many 8th graders and above, would it? Most outside leagues for these age groups start later to accomodate the high school season.

Here are my notes, from the KHSAA Baseball Clinic....

 

ByLaw 8 - Outside Teams

Schools passed a Rule, which would restrict (no earlier than 2008) players from playing on outside teams, if they had played for a High School team, at any level that season, in that specific sport.

Here are my notes, from the KHSAA Baseball Clinic....

 

ByLaw 8 - Outside Teams

Schools passed a Rule, which would restrict (no earlier than 2008) players from playing on outside teams, if they had played for a High School team, at any level that season, in that specific sport.

 

Now I'm confused. Is this only during the high school season? Or, is this all summer long?

:thumb:

Where is little Bobby more likely to get the most playing time?

 

I have seen kids just get stars in their eyes, and Moms and Dads puff up with pride that little Bobby has made his High School baseball team as an eighth grader or, God forbid, as a seventh grader. Then when it comes to the season the kids that are actual freshman get all the "In-Game" playing time. All the while Bobby is riden the pine. Oh sure, he's getting the experience practicing with the big boys. But for his development as a player there is know substitute for "In-Game" experience.

 

JMO - But you are doing more harm to that kids potential as a player, by letting him ride the pine as an eighth grader than what he will ever gain by being up there with the "Big Boys".

 

Again, JMO. Put him on a select team, an AAU team, a little league team, a Babe-Ruth team, a knot hole team or whatever team that will get him the most "In-Game" experience. That's what's best for the kid. It's not as good for Moms, Dads or the kids ego, but it will get the kid better prepared to compete at the next level. So that when the kid becomes a true freshman he has the confidence to compete for and beat out Johnnie for that position on the freshman team.

 

Put the kid on the team to get the most playing time on the field.

Now I'm confused. Is this only during the high school season? Or, is this all summer long?

I'm not 100% clear myself but I'm presuming, only during the HS season and throughout all tournament play.

 

I'm sure it will be clarified more, prior to the beginning of the '08 season. This ByLaw and ruling, will certainly result in considerable discussion and decisions, for many players.

I'm not 100% clear myself but I'm presuming, only during the HS season and throughout all tournament play.

 

I'm sure it will be clarified more, prior to the beginning of the '08 season. This ByLaw and ruling, will certainly result in considerable discussion and decisions, for many players.

 

So basically it will lead Junior/Senior League, Babe Ruth and all other leagues to have to revise their eligiliblity rules for All-star teams. The kids will not be able to get in all of their league games required before all-star season. Do you agree Strike3?

Great rule, IMO...

Where is little Bobby more likely to get the most playing time?

 

I have seen kids just get stars in their eyes, and Moms and Dads puff up with pride that little Bobby has made his High School baseball team as an eighth grader or, God forbid, as a seventh grader. Then when it comes to the season the kids that are actual freshman get all the "In-Game" playing time. All the while Bobby is riden the pine. Oh sure, he's getting the experience practicing with the big boys. But for his development as a player there is know substitute for "In-Game" experience.

 

JMO - But you are doing more harm to that kids potential as a player, by letting him ride the pine as an eighth grader than what he will ever gain by being up there with the "Big Boys".

 

Again, JMO. Put him on a select team, an AAU team, a little league team, a Babe-Ruth team, a knot hole team or whatever team that will get him the most "In-Game" experience. That's what's best for the kid. It's not as good for Moms, Dads or the kids ego, but it will get the kid better prepared to compete at the next level. So that when the kid becomes a true freshman he has the confidence to compete for and beat out Johnnie for that position on the freshman team.

 

Put the kid on the team to get the most playing time on the field.

 

 

 

While I understand completely I do not totally agree with you. You are talking about circumstances that don't exist in every case. You're also talking about programs that usually have a larger enrollment.

So basically it will lead Junior/Senior League, Babe Ruth and all other leagues to have to revise their eligibility rules for All-star teams. The kids will not be able to get in all of their league games required before all-star season. Do you agree Strike3?

I agree and many youth organizations, that have minimum requirements of games, will need to modify that requirement.

 

Currently, most have some reduced stipulations already in place. LL for example, only requires players from HS teams, to participate in 1/4 of their regularly scheduled JV/SR games, to participate in All-Stars. I believe Big League teams, don't have minimum games.

 

Ex:...8 regular season games are scheduled. Non-HS players, must play in a minimum of 4 and HS players, must participate in 2. If I recall correctly.

 

This will be interesting to follow.

While I understand completely I do not totally agree with you. You are talking about circumstances that don't exist in every case. You're also talking about programs that usually have a larger enrollment.

 

You're right bulldog, I didn't mean to sound all inclusive of every situation, there are definite exceptions. But my point is still the same: The kid needs to play for the team that will get him the most "In-Game" experience. If a kid makes his High School team as a seventh or eighth grader because the High School is short on players and he's going to get a lot of PT; then I am all for the kid playing up. It should be about what's best for the kids development as a player.

Great rule, IMO...

 

 

Curious to know why you think its a great rule. Inquiring minds want to know.

What ever the final form of the rule is, I sincerely hope that it is in the spirit of the kids first, after all that is who is playing the game. To place limits on where a kid plays does not make any program very attractive to the player or the parent. A kid chooses where to play and how many programs to play for based on many factors ranging from physical ability to coaching to where his buddies are playing. Don't take that away from them, or we run the risk of driving them away from something they enjoy, baseball.