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All A Classic ... realignment?

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For several years, I have felt that the All A Classic could use some minor realignment to make up for the inequity in the size of the various regions. Some regions have around a dozen teams ... some have just four or five participants.

 

One other suggestion would be to group all of the Louisville schools into one region. With some exceptions, the 6th and 7th generally don't produce very good teams in this tournament. Grouping them together would probably improve the state tournament field's overall strength.

 

Thoughts?

For several years, I have felt that the All A Classic could use some minor realignment to make up for the inequity in the size of the various regions. Some regions have around a dozen teams ... some have just four or five participants.

 

One other suggestion would be to group all of the Louisville schools into one region. With some exceptions, the 6th and 7th generally don't produce very good teams in this tournament. Grouping them together would probably improve the state tournament field's overall strength.

 

Thoughts?

 

Probably a good idea, as I was thinking how thin some regions were, when I was studying the contenders before the tourney. Could be confusing to set up, and of course would disturb some traditional rivalrys; but would undoubtably produce an even stronger field!!

 

PS: I, and many others I talked to down at EKU thought this year's field was one of the strongest in years!!

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PS: I, and many others I talked to down at EKU thought this year's field was one of the strongest in years!!
Possibly. I do feel that the field was as wide open as it's been. On the boys side, I felt there were a dozen teams that could have reached the finals with a break or two.
Probably a good idea, as I was thinking how thin some regions were, when I was studying the contenders before the tourney. Could be confusing to set up, and of course would disturb some traditional rivalrys; but would undoubtably produce an even stronger field!!

 

PS: I, and many others I talked to down at EKU thought this year's field was one of the strongest in years!!

 

Maybe since the All A is organized by someone other than the KHSAA they might use common sense to create the possibility of "an even stronger field". The KHSAA realignment did just the opposite for the Sweet 16...

The integrity of the regions shouldn't be compromised. If you play in a region with a lot of big schools, it balances it out for you if there are only four or five teams to compete against for the ticket to the All "A" Classic.

Why not just take all A schools, start in the west and divide them into regions six or seven teams to a region to balance it out. Since district tourney's are not played in All A you don't have to have to KHSAA alignment. As it is some regions have 10 or 11 "A" size schools while some only have 4 or 5.

Why not just take all A schools, start in the west and divide them into regions six or seven teams to a region to balance it out. Since district tourney's are not played in All A you don't have to have to KHSAA alignment. As it is some regions have 10 or 11 "A" size schools while some only have 4 or 5.

 

You ask, I deliver! Here is a 16-region alignment with the All "A" schools from this year. The ten Louisville schools were placed in one region and the rest were filtered into the other 15. On average, there are 7.2 teams per region in my alignment. It is based completely on geography.

 

Region 1

Ballard Memorial, Carlisle County, Fulton City, Fulton County, Hickman County, Mayfield, Murray.

Region 2

Community Christian, Crittenden County, Heath, Livingston Central, Lyon County, Reidland, St. Mary.

Region 3

Dawson Springs, Frederick Fraize, Hancock County, McLean County, Owensboro Catholic, Providence, Webster County, Whitesville Trinity.

Region 4

Caverna, Fort Campbell, Glasgow, Monroe County, Russellville, Todd County Central, University Heights.

Region 5

Bardstown, Bethlehem, Campbellsville, Clinton County, Cumberland County, Fort Knox, Green County, Metcalfe County.

Region 6

Beth Haven, Brown, Collegiate, Evangel Christian, Kentucky Country Day, Louisville Holy Cross, Portland Christian, St. Francis, Shawnee, Whitefield Academy.

Region 7

Carroll County, Eminence, Frankfort, Gallatin County, Owen County, Trimble County, Williamstown.

Region 8

Beechwood, Covington Holy Cross, Heritage, Ludlow, St. Henry, Villa Madonna, Walton-Verona.

Region 9

Bellevue, Bishop Brossart, Calvary Christian, Dayton, Newport, Newport Central Catholic, Silver Grove.

Region 10

Augusta, Bracken County, Deming, Lexington Christian, Nicholas County, Paris, Sayre, St. Patrick.

Region 11

Berea, Burgin, Danville, Model, Monticello, Somerset.

Region 12

Barbourville, Lynn Camp, Middlesboro, Oneida Baptist, Pineville, Red Bird, Williamsburg.

Region 13

Cordia, Cumberland, Evarts, Harlan, Jenkins, June Buchanan, Knott County Central.

Region 14

Buckhorn, Hazard, Jackson City, Lee County, Owsley County, Riverside Christian, Wolfe County.

Region 15

Allen Central, Betsy Layne, David School, Phelps, Piarist, Pikeville, Sheldon Clark, South Floyd.

Region 16

Bath County, Elliott County, Fairview, Menifee County, Paintsville, Raceland, Rose Hill Christian.

GCHS this looks workable. I appreciate the time.

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You ask, I deliver! Here is a 16-region alignment with the All "A" schools from this year. The ten Louisville schools were placed in one region and the rest were filtered into the other 15. On average, there are 7.2 teams per region in my alignment. It is based completely on geography.

 

Region 1

Ballard Memorial, Carlisle County, Fulton City, Fulton County, Hickman County, Mayfield, Murray.

Region 2

Community Christian, Crittenden County, Heath, Livingston Central, Lyon County, Reidland, St. Mary.

Region 3

Dawson Springs, Frederick Fraize, Hancock County, McLean County, Owensboro Catholic, Providence, Webster County, Whitesville Trinity.

Region 4

Caverna, Fort Campbell, Glasgow, Monroe County, Russellville, Todd County Central, University Heights.

Region 5

Bardstown, Bethlehem, Campbellsville, Clinton County, Cumberland County, Fort Knox, Green County, Metcalfe County.

Region 6

Beth Haven, Brown, Collegiate, Evangel Christian, Kentucky Country Day, Louisville Holy Cross, Portland Christian, St. Francis, Shawnee, Whitefield Academy.

Region 7

Carroll County, Eminence, Frankfort, Gallatin County, Owen County, Trimble County, Williamstown.

Region 8

Beechwood, Covington Holy Cross, Heritage, Ludlow, St. Henry, Villa Madonna, Walton-Verona.

Region 9

Bellevue, Bishop Brossart, Calvary Christian, Dayton, Newport, Newport Central Catholic, Silver Grove.

Region 10

Augusta, Bracken County, Deming, Lexington Christian, Nicholas County, Paris, Sayre, St. Patrick.

Region 11

Berea, Burgin, Danville, Model, Monticello, Somerset.

Region 12

Barbourville, Lynn Camp, Middlesboro, Oneida Baptist, Pineville, Red Bird, Williamsburg.

Region 13

Cordia, Cumberland, Evarts, Harlan, Jenkins, June Buchanan, Knott County Central.

Region 14

Buckhorn, Hazard, Jackson City, Lee County, Owsley County, Riverside Christian, Wolfe County.

Region 15

Allen Central, Betsy Layne, David School, Phelps, Piarist, Pikeville, Sheldon Clark, South Floyd.

Region 16

Bath County, Elliott County, Fairview, Menifee County, Paintsville, Raceland, Rose Hill Christian.

 

Using gchs_uk9's realignment, this is what this year's first-round slate would have looked like:

 

Lexington Christian vs. Bishop Brossart

St. Henry vs. Somerset

University Heights vs. Gallatin County

Fulton County vs. Heath

Owensboro Catholic or Webster County vs. Cumberland

Lynn Camp vs. Hazard

Bardstown vs. Shawnee

Allen Central vs. Paintsville

 

Would it have been a better tournament? Probably not this year. The field would have replaced Kentucky Country Day, Newport Catholic and Elliott County with St. Henry, Lynn Camp and Allen Central ... probably not a net gain.

Using gchs_uk9's realignment, this is what this year's first-round slate would have looked like:

 

Lexington Christian vs. Bishop Brossart

St. Henry vs. Somerset

University Heights vs. Gallatin County

Fulton County vs. Heath

Owensboro Catholic or Webster County vs. Cumberland

Lynn Camp vs. Hazard

Bardstown vs. Shawnee

Allen Central vs. Paintsville

 

Would it have been a better tournament? Probably not this year. The field would have replaced Kentucky Country Day, Newport Catholic and Elliott County with St. Henry, Lynn Camp and Allen Central ... probably not a net gain.

 

It probably would have been Barbourville instead of Lynn Camp. Barbourville lost on a last second shot to Cumberland in the finals and Lynn Camp lost in the opening round.

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It probably would have been Barbourville instead of Lynn Camp. Barbourville lost on a last second shot to Cumberland in the finals and Lynn Camp lost in the opening round.
You would know better than me ...
You would know better than me ...

 

That switch changes everything:jump:

Barbourville would have been a tough out in the state tourney.

Barbourville would have been a tough out in the state tourney.

Maybe so, but you have to get there first.

 

GCHS....I like where you are headed with the way you have the regions broken down.

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