And maybe the most beneficial thing of all about this, Dayton could very well do better with retaining students/families who leave and with gaining. People have been buying in Dayton more again and the newer rentals behind the flood wall are gaining people too.

Greendevil Lane is officially closed, they are about to begin digging it up. 
 

 

A couple more pictures recently posted too.

 

 

2 hours ago, hrcarrier said:

A couple more pictures recently posted too.

I realize money is certainly a factor to consider, but I'd love to see them take the two stanchions for the entry gate and/or the ticket sale booth and build them out of field stone as an homage to the stone used for the ticket booths and walls around the stadium at OW Davis Field.

34 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I realize money is certainly a factor to consider, but I'd love to see them take the two stanchions for the entry gate and/or the ticket sale booth and build them out of field stone as an homage to the stone used for the ticket booths and walls around the stadium at OW Davis Field.

That would totally be awesome! I’m happy they are getting the new complex and all, but as old as Davis Field is it’s going to be like a big loss too. More than enough memories inside and around Davis Field for me alone. I’m sure there’s more from plenty others.

 

5 hours ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I realize money is certainly a factor to consider, but I'd love to see them take the two stanchions for the entry gate and/or the ticket sale booth and build them out of field stone as an homage to the stone used for the ticket booths and walls around the stadium at OW Davis Field.

 

4 hours ago, hrcarrier said:

That would totally be awesome! I’m happy they are getting the new complex and all, but as old as Davis Field is it’s going to be like a big loss too. More than enough memories inside and around Davis Field for me alone. I’m sure there’s more from plenty others.

 

Third that! Great idea!

On 6/7/2022 at 8:24 AM, HedgeHog8 said:

I sure hope not. Call me nostalgic, but I like those old stadiums. Dayton's stands and field has its problems, much like Newport is running into now, but I would hate to see such a stadium fall into ruin. I love coaching there. It's a diamond, not well cut and shiny like you'd put on ring, but a diamond nonetheless.

Agree. Dayton's football stadium was one of the last places in northern Kentucky where you could walk in the venue and feel lost in time. That was a cool feeling. I don't see why you can't try to retain some of that mystique with the new stadium by making it something new that looks old in some areas. If I was an architect, I would have tried to marry some of the old with the new at Dayton so people can still say wow what a cool place instead of wow what a new place.

On 7/8/2022 at 9:42 PM, KYFootballFanz said:

Why not just close Bellevue and Dayton and build a school to combine both of them.

The Greentigers.

On 6/6/2024 at 12:48 PM, Crazy Legs said:

The Greentigers.

You can’t combine two independent school districts. If either were to close, the students would then become part of the Campbell County School District. 

22 hours ago, Pi said:

You can’t combine two independent school districts. If either were to close, the students would then become part of the Campbell County School District. 

Correct, it happened with Silver Grove schools a few years back.

22 hours ago, Pi said:

You can’t combine two independent school districts. If either were to close, the students would then become part of the Campbell County School District. 

Just now, New Colonel said:

Correct, it happened with Silver Grove schools a few years back.

Silver Grove Independent School District didn't have an adjacent independent school district that wanted to merge with them - that's why they merged into the Campbell County School District. The only independent school district they could have potentially merged with was Fort Thomas Independent Schools since Silver Grove does share a couple hundred yards (at most) of its city limits with Fort Thomas. But Fort Thomas Independent didn't want to entertain the idea, so Silver Grove consolidated into the county system.

I don't know that there's like an official "rule" on the books with the Kentucky Department of Education that independent school districts can ONLY consolidate into the larger county school district, so much as that is just really defacto how it happens. I can't think of many recent instances of independent school districts consolidating in the last 25 years or so, aside from Silver Grove. Most consolidation in the state took place in the 1950s when the "county" school system was established in the first place. The truth is, I don't know that there are many instances outside of northern Kentucky were you even have independent school districts that share borders with another independent school district at this point. And then additional to that, I don't know that there are many instances where one independent school district decides they want to merge with another district and then there is simultaneously an immediately adjacent independent district that's interesting in flipping their world upside down to add in a whole new base of students with a merge like that.

I know when I've talked on numerous occasions with administrators in Ludlow Independent, Beechwood Independent, Erlanger-Elsmere Independent, and Fort Thomas Independent schools about "Do you think Dayton and Bellevue schools will ever combine?" there was zero mention of "Oh, independent school districts can't merge with one another into a larger independent school district, they have to consolidate into the county school district." Instead, they've literally ALL said that the reason they think it is so unlikely that Dayton & Bellevue, and/or Dayton, Bellevue & Newport will merge is because of ALL the headache that is.

That requires a TON of work and decisions to be made, not to mention the fact that there will be significant changes to the property tax rates (which is one of the primary monetary resources for public schools) within those districts. Dayton's property taxes are $4.46 per $1000 of assessed property value, Bellevue's property taxes are $3.91 per $1000 of assessed property value, and Newport's property taxes are $2.60 per $1000 of valuation. 

Once you determine the new tax rates for the consolidated school district, here are just a few of the questions you're still left with figuring out: How is the new school board decided on? What if there are differences in terms, wages, etc...how is that addressed? What facilities will they use? Will they need any completely new schools? How about sports teams and coaches, what stays and what goes...if anything? There's going to be a lot more busing required now. Do they even have buses, or is that an entirely new problem?

On 6/7/2024 at 4:03 PM, Pi said:

You can’t combine two independent school districts. If either were to close, the students would then become part of the Campbell County School District. 

Thanks Captain Obvious. It was a joke.

18 hours ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Silver Grove Independent School District didn't have an adjacent independent school district that wanted to merge with them - that's why they merged into the Campbell County School District. The only independent school district they could have potentially merged with was Fort Thomas Independent Schools since Silver Grove does share a couple hundred yards (at most) of its city limits with Fort Thomas. But Fort Thomas Independent didn't want to entertain the idea, so Silver Grove consolidated into the county system.

I don't know that there's like an official "rule" on the books with the Kentucky Department of Education that independent school districts can ONLY consolidate into the larger county school district, so much as that is just really defacto how it happens. I can't think of many recent instances of independent school districts consolidating in the last 25 years or so, aside from Silver Grove. Most consolidation in the state took place in the 1950s when the "county" school system was established in the first place. The truth is, I don't know that there are many instances outside of northern Kentucky were you even have independent school districts that share borders with another independent school district at this point. And then additional to that, I don't know that there are many instances where one independent school district decides they want to merge with another district and then there is simultaneously an immediately adjacent independent district that's interesting in flipping their world upside down to add in a whole new base of students with a merge like that.

I know when I've talked on numerous occasions with administrators in Ludlow Independent, Beechwood Independent, Erlanger-Elsmere Independent, and Fort Thomas Independent schools about "Do you think Dayton and Bellevue schools will ever combine?" there was zero mention of "Oh, independent school districts can't merge with one another into a larger independent school district, they have to consolidate into the county school district." Instead, they've literally ALL said that the reason they think it is so unlikely that Dayton & Bellevue, and/or Dayton, Bellevue & Newport will merge is because of ALL the headache that is.

That requires a TON of work and decisions to be made, not to mention the fact that there will be significant changes to the property tax rates (which is one of the primary monetary resources for public schools) within those districts. Dayton's property taxes are $4.46 per $1000 of assessed property value, Bellevue's property taxes are $3.91 per $1000 of assessed property value, and Newport's property taxes are $2.60 per $1000 of valuation. 

Once you determine the new tax rates for the consolidated school district, here are just a few of the questions you're still left with figuring out: How is the new school board decided on? What if there are differences in terms, wages, etc...how is that addressed? What facilities will they use? Will they need any completely new schools? How about sports teams and coaches, what stays and what goes...if anything? There's going to be a lot more busing required now. Do they even have buses, or is that an entirely new problem?

Thank you for this explanation. This kind of post is much more helpful and informative than a throw away one liner that doesn't include essential details.

On 6/7/2024 at 4:03 PM, Pi said:

You can’t combine two independent school districts. If either were to close, the students would then become part of the Campbell County School District. 

Yes, you can.  See KRS 160.040.

On 6/8/2024 at 3:24 PM, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Silver Grove Independent School District didn't have an adjacent independent school district that wanted to merge with them - that's why they merged into the Campbell County School District. The only independent school district they could have potentially merged with was Fort Thomas Independent Schools since Silver Grove does share a couple hundred yards (at most) of its city limits with Fort Thomas. But Fort Thomas Independent didn't want to entertain the idea, so Silver Grove consolidated into the county system.

I don't know that there's like an official "rule" on the books with the Kentucky Department of Education that independent school districts can ONLY consolidate into the larger county school district, so much as that is just really defacto how it happens. I can't think of many recent instances of independent school districts consolidating in the last 25 years or so, aside from Silver Grove. Most consolidation in the state took place in the 1950s when the "county" school system was established in the first place. The truth is, I don't know that there are many instances outside of northern Kentucky were you even have independent school districts that share borders with another independent school district at this point. And then additional to that, I don't know that there are many instances where one independent school district decides they want to merge with another district and then there is simultaneously an immediately adjacent independent district that's interesting in flipping their world upside down to add in a whole new base of students with a merge like that.

I know when I've talked on numerous occasions with administrators in Ludlow Independent, Beechwood Independent, Erlanger-Elsmere Independent, and Fort Thomas Independent schools about "Do you think Dayton and Bellevue schools will ever combine?" there was zero mention of "Oh, independent school districts can't merge with one another into a larger independent school district, they have to consolidate into the county school district." Instead, they've literally ALL said that the reason they think it is so unlikely that Dayton & Bellevue, and/or Dayton, Bellevue & Newport will merge is because of ALL the headache that is.

That requires a TON of work and decisions to be made, not to mention the fact that there will be significant changes to the property tax rates (which is one of the primary monetary resources for public schools) within those districts. Dayton's property taxes are $4.46 per $1000 of assessed property value, Bellevue's property taxes are $3.91 per $1000 of assessed property value, and Newport's property taxes are $2.60 per $1000 of valuation. 

Once you determine the new tax rates for the consolidated school district, here are just a few of the questions you're still left with figuring out: How is the new school board decided on? What if there are differences in terms, wages, etc...how is that addressed? What facilities will they use? Will they need any completely new schools? How about sports teams and coaches, what stays and what goes...if anything? There's going to be a lot more busing required now. Do they even have buses, or is that an entirely new problem?

Very informative, thank you.