November 22, 200619 yr Really? Like what? First, part of the reason he is at Florida is because of a rematch. The Gators greatest moment was made possible 10 years ago because of a revenge victory over Florida State in the Sugar Bowl. "Completely different era," Meyer said. Which means exactly what? Florida State beat Florida by three in the regular season, then played the Gators again 33 days later for the national championship. Ohio State beat Michigan by three on Saturday. The two could meet for the national championship 48 days from now. Like that...
November 22, 200619 yr Like that... Which means what exactly? That Michigan deserves a second chance to do what they couldn't do the first time? I didn't agree with it with UF/FSU and I don't agree with it now. What has Michigan done to deserve it? They beat 1 ranked, overrated team, and then had OSU screw around and keep them in it? That's deserving of a rematch? I would venture to say that unless you're just a UM fan, the nation doesn't want a rematch. I would also venture to say that if USC hadn't lost to Oregon St, they would be ranked #2 anyway and we wouldn't be having this argument. I know "ifs and buts," right? IF Michigan had played a tougher OOC schedule and not played Ball St to a td and 2 point conversion from OT, then MAYBE I could see it. Besides, the article that you posted, which has NOTHING to do with the SEC being overrated stated that Meyer was just making a case for Flordia. That's not the case. If you read his original statement, he also talked about how it would help USC. The columnist didn't state that. It appears to me as though an idiot with a computer had a personal vandeta against Meyer and waited for him to say ANYTHING just so he could put him under a microscope and criticize anything and everything he says. Personally I agree with Meyer 100%. I've wanted a playoff for years now. It's funny how in the past, the NCAA football video games had a playoff system on it and everything worked out ok. But the real NCAA won't have anything to do with it.
November 22, 200619 yr UM played a team tied for 5th in the MAC. They got up big, put it in cruise, and almost paid dearly. Florida played a LAST PLACE 1AA team. If you wonder why I question your points, there you have it. And. The NCAA would like nothing more than having a playoff. As it is, they will have to pry the money away from the cold, dead fingers of the conferences and schools. I can understand why the SEC is upset, though. They tried to rig the system when it was designed, and it has backfired. Such is life...
November 22, 200619 yr I will say this. The SEC has just about perfected the system, outside of the fact the season can end with three undefeated BCS teams. Dumb down the OOC, and hope one team can run the table. If they do have a 1 loss team, the loss will likely be to another highly ranked SEC team, so the damage is minimal. This way, they only way to know how good the SEC is that year is by judging it against itself...
November 22, 200619 yr UM played a team tied for 5th in the MAC. They got up big, put it in cruise, and almost paid dearly. Florida played a LAST PLACE 1AA team. If you wonder why I question your points, there you have it. And. The NCAA would like nothing more than having a playoff. As it is, they will have to pry the money away from the cold, dead fingers of the conferences and schools. I can understand why the SEC is upset, though. They tried to rig the system when it was designed, and it has backfired. Such is life... :lol: I love the SEC, but they're going to have to start scheduling better OOC. I don't necessarily think that makes them any better or worse, but that's the rules of the game nowadays. The BCS and its criteria have been around long enough now for the SEC teams to understand and realize the potential consequences of playing Pikeville College and No-name Technical Institute in their out-of-conference schedule. I'm an SEC homer and even I'm getting tired of it. If you have a team that you think is national title material, I have two questions. 1) Why would you be afraid to play good teams? and more importantly 2) Why would you schedule horrific opponents and risk jeopardizing your chances because of schedule strength? It's time for some of the elite in the SEC to step up and play better games OOC...I'd like to see it. For one, I'd have a better case when I'm touting the SEC as the best conference as I do in a typical season.
November 22, 200619 yr I will say this. The SEC has just about perfected the system, outside of the fact the season can end with three undefeated BCS teams. Dumb down the OOC, and hope one team can run the table. If they do have a 1 loss team, the loss will likely be to another highly ranked SEC team, so the damage is minimal. This way, they only way to know how good the SEC is that year is by judging it against itself... Too bad it leaves them on the outside looking in more often than not apparently...
November 22, 200619 yr Too bad it leaves them on the outside looking in more often than not apparently... I think that points back to it being a down year. The Gators only loss is to Auburn, but because the Tigers aren't up to par and the West champ is the one that stepped out only to get thrashed by a QB in his first start, the numbers just don't add up. And the major risk in pumping up the OOC is that their cover will be blown. They can't have that happen...
November 22, 200619 yr UM played a team tied for 5th in the MAC. They got up big, put it in cruise, and almost paid dearly. Florida played a LAST PLACE 1AA team. If you wonder why I question your points, there you have it. And. The NCAA would like nothing more than having a playoff. As it is, they will have to pry the money away from the cold, dead fingers of the conferences and schools. I can understand why the SEC is upset, though. They tried to rig the system when it was designed, and it has backfired. Such is life... I don't know how you say that UM was up big early. Ball St was ahead at the end of the first quarter. But anyway, let's get in the "way back machine" and go back a few years. Virginia Tech played 1-AA James Madison or some pathetic team like that and won. At the end of the season, they were undefeated and Nebraska's only loss came at Texas by 3 or 4 points. I think you know what happened. VT got smoked by FSU for the title and Nebraska beat Tennessee in the Fiesta Bowl. Why was VT there? Because of Vick. Let's face it. The majority of the top schools schedule weak teams. Michigan does it, Florida does it, Nebraska does it. USC didn't do it. At least not as many. It is possible that they beat two teams in a BCS game. Michigan is #47 in SOS and USC is #48. With it being so close and UM having already lost to OSU, USC should be ahead of them. They've beaten more ranked teams, and after they beat ND this weekend, I don't see how they couldn't jump them.
November 22, 200619 yr I don't know how you say that UM was up big early. Ball St was ahead at the end of the first quarter. But anyway, let's get in the "way back machine" and go back a few years. Virginia Tech played 1-AA James Madison or some pathetic team like that and won. At the end of the season, they were undefeated and Nebraska's only loss came at Texas by 3 or 4 points. I think you know what happened. VT got smoked by FSU for the title and Nebraska beat Tennessee in the Fiesta Bowl. Why was VT there? Because of Vick. Let's face it. The majority of the top schools schedule weak teams. Michigan does it, Florida does it, Nebraska does it. USC didn't do it. At least not as many. It is possible that they beat two teams in a BCS game. Michigan is #47 in SOS and USC is #48. With it being so close and UM having already lost to OSU, USC should be ahead of them. They've beaten more ranked teams, and after they beat ND this weekend, I don't see how they couldn't jump them. Isn't this still the SEC thread? I think you need a BCS thread to ramble in. I have said that IF USC can win out, it is likely they pass Michigan. What's your point???
November 22, 200619 yr Isn't this still the SEC thread? I think you need a BCS thread to ramble in. I have said that IF USC can win out, it is likely they pass Michigan. What's your point??? Ummm......Michigan doesn't belong. But I ask you the same question, what's your point about the article that you posted. This is an SEC "overrated" thread. That article has nothing to do with being overrated. Deep down you don't really think USC deserves it, do you? You said it's likely they'll pass them. It still sounds like you think Michigan should be there again. Let's say by chance there is a rematch. What's in it for OSU? If they win people will say "they've already beat them once." If they lose AT BEST they'll split.
November 22, 200619 yr Interesting stat I heard today, Florida will play 9 bowl-eligible teams this year. USC has played 10, which is more than anyone. Florida's 9 is also more than anyone.
November 22, 200619 yr UM played a team tied for 5th in the MAC. They got up big, put it in cruise, and almost paid dearly. Florida played a LAST PLACE 1AA team. If you wonder why I question your points, there you have it. And. The NCAA would like nothing more than having a playoff. As it is, they will have to pry the money away from the cold, dead fingers of the conferences and schools. I can understand why the SEC is upset, though. They tried to rig the system when it was designed, and it has backfired. Such is life... The SEC plays a tougher conference schedule year in and year out than anyone else. Florida, like UL is being punished, if they win out, by Fla St and Miami having bad seasons. Had Florida St been their usual self in the top 20, Florida would be playing 5 top 20 teams, instead they will just play 4.
November 22, 200619 yr I think that points back to it being a down year. The Gators only loss is to Auburn, but because the Tigers aren't up to par and the West champ is the one that stepped out only to get thrashed by a QB in his first start, the numbers just don't add up. And the major risk in pumping up the OOC is that their cover will be blown. They can't have that happen... I think the SEC would be fine playing better teams OOC. One thing that makes it so tough inside the conference is the number of upper tier programs (Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, and LSU) and the built in rivalry games they have. Every team and conference has rivalries, but the SEC has more ultra-intense rivalry games built in it's schedule...that means even in down years Georgia plays Florida tough, 'Bama plays Auburn tough...it just makes it hard to stay at the mental level needed to win all those games. That's not an argument one way or the other for the conference strength, just a talking point. I still think they need to schedule better OOC, as most do...and I think that will happen sooner rather than later...they're going to have to do that or quit crying about trailing in the BCS rankings.
November 22, 200619 yr Interesting stat I heard today, Florida will play 9 bowl-eligible teams this year. USC has played 10, which is more than anyone. Florida's 9 is also more than anyone. Louisville has already played 7, and will play one more this weekend. And if Miami pulls off the upset over BC, that'd be 9. WVU and Rutgers have 9 wins. Kentucky, KState, MTSU and USF have 7 wins. Cincy and Pitt have 6.
November 22, 200619 yr Ummm......Michigan doesn't belong. But I ask you the same question, what's your point about the article that you posted. This is an SEC "overrated" thread. That article has nothing to do with being overrated. Deep down you don't really think USC deserves it, do you? You said it's likely they'll pass them. It still sounds like you think Michigan should be there again. Let's say by chance there is a rematch. What's in it for OSU? If they win people will say "they've already beat them once." If they lose AT BEST they'll split. A chance to beat their biggest rival twice in one season. And those two wins would be in two of the biggest matchups ever between the two. That and a national championship. I'd say there is plenty in it for the Buckeyes.
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