November 22, 200619 yr I will say this. The SEC has just about perfected the system, outside of the fact the season can end with three undefeated BCS teams. Dumb down the OOC, and hope one team can run the table. If they do have a 1 loss team, the loss will likely be to another highly ranked SEC team, so the damage is minimal. This way, they only way to know how good the SEC is that year is by judging it against itself... Or by bowl game results. I checked the scores over the last three years for the Big 10 and the SEC in their bowl games. SEC - 11 wins & 8 losses Big 10 - 8 wins and 10 losses
November 22, 200619 yr Louisville has already played 7, and will play one more this weekend. And if Miami pulls off the upset over BC, that'd be 9. WVU and Rutgers have 9 wins. Kentucky, KState, MTSU and USF have 7 wins. Cincy and Pitt have 6. I heard Joe B Hall talking about it on his radio show today. Its a somewhat misleading stat, but interesting nonetheless.
November 22, 200619 yr Or by bowl game results. I checked the scores over the last three years for the Big 10 and the SEC in their bowl games. SEC - 11 wins & 8 losses Big 10 - 8 wins and 10 losses Wow. What a huge advantage... :lol:
November 22, 200619 yr Ummm......Michigan doesn't belong. But I ask you the same question, what's your point about the article that you posted. This is an SEC "overrated" thread. That article has nothing to do with being overrated. Deep down you don't really think USC deserves it, do you? You said it's likely they'll pass them. It still sounds like you think Michigan should be there again. Let's say by chance there is a rematch. What's in it for OSU? If they win people will say "they've already beat them once." If they lose AT BEST they'll split. I'll go slow since you are having problems. Meyer is upset with the system because he feels slighted. BUT if the SEC was performing better, they would be right there with USC (behind UM for now if you like facts). For example. The voters and computers know that Georgia lost to UK and Vandy, and that the Gators played just like those two in the Swamp against the same team. To make it worse, Vandy and UK proved the point that this isn't a fluke comparison by playing the Gators tight in the Swamp as well. Vandy is 1-7 in the SEC and there is NO WAY I should be able to talk about them in the same breath as Florida if the Gators are a real title contender. If the SEC wasn't down, the Gators would be in the race...
November 22, 200619 yr Louisville has already played 7, and will play one more this weekend. And if Miami pulls off the upset over BC, that'd be 9. WVU and Rutgers have 9 wins. Kentucky, KState, MTSU and USF have 7 wins. Cincy and Pitt have 6. Not a good team in that bunch, although UC might be on their way to becoming a good team. Spin it any way you like, U of L's schedule is not even close to playing 8 SEC teams (9 if they would make it to the SEC championship game) in any way, shape or form. I like Louisville, but they would win the overall SEC title MAYBE once every 15 years or so...
November 22, 200619 yr Wow. What a huge advantage... :lol: I never said that it was a huge advantage, but it does tell me that the SEC won 58% of their bowl games and the Big 10 won 44% of their's, in games against good teams at neutral sites. I think that these two conferences are the strongest year end and year, but I would have thought that each would have won over 50% of these contests.
November 22, 200619 yr I never said that it was a huge advantage, but it does tell me that the SEC won 58% of their bowl games and the Big 10 won 44% of their's, in games against good teams at neutral sites. I think that these two conferences are the strongest year end and year, but I would have thought that each would have won over 50% of these contests. For as long as I can remember, the Big 11 has not had much success in Bowl Season. I've heard Bo and Woody both say they had a hard time getting their team back up from the one game they worked all season for. To the Buckeye's credit, they have been better under The Vest...
November 22, 200619 yr I never said that it was a huge advantage, but it does tell me that the SEC won 58% of their bowl games and the Big 10 won 44% of their's, in games against good teams at neutral sites. I think that these two conferences are the strongest year end and year, but I would have thought that each would have won over 50% of these contests. Since 2002, the Big 10 is 6-5 against the SEC in bowl games 2005 Wisconsin over Auburn in the CapitalOne Bowl Florida over Iowa in the Outback Bowl 2004 Iowa over LSU in the CapitalOne Georgia over Wisconsin in the Outback Minnesota over Alabama in the Music City 2003 Georiga over Purdue in the CapitalOne Iowa over Florida in the Outback Auburn over Wisconsin in the Music City 2002 Auburn over Penn State in the CapitalOne Michigan over Florida in the Outback Minnesota over Arkansas in the Music City
November 22, 200619 yr Not a good team in that bunch, although UC might be on their way to becoming a good team. Spin it any way you like, U of L's schedule is not even close to playing 8 SEC teams (9 if they would make it to the SEC championship game) in any way, shape or form. I like Louisville, but they would win the overall SEC title MAYBE once every 15 years or so...If we were looking out over the past, I agree, Louisville would have a chance every 15 years or so. Looking into the future, I disagree. As to Louisville not being close to playing 8 SEC teams, I guess it depends on what 8 you pick. Louisville's schedule and Kentucky's schedule are just about dead-even, as has been beaten to death on this board. Kentucky clearly has a more difficult schedule to go undefeated against, with road dates against Florida, LSU and Tennessee. But Louisville had a more difficult schedule to get to 7 wins.
November 22, 200619 yr Since 2002, the Big 10 is 6-5 against the SEC in bowl games 2005 Wisconsin over Auburn in the CapitalOne Bowl Florida over Iowa in the Outback Bowl 2004 Iowa over LSU in the CapitalOne Georgia over Wisconsin in the Outback Minnesota over Alabama in the Music City 2003 Georiga over Purdue in the CapitalOne Iowa over Florida in the Outback Auburn over Wisconsin in the Music City 2002 Auburn over Penn State in the CapitalOne Michigan over Florida in the Outback Minnesota over Arkansas in the Music City Why not go back to 2001? LSU 47 -34 over Illinois UT 45-17 over Michigan South Carolina 31-28 over Ohio St.
November 22, 200619 yr Since 2002, the Big 10 is 6-5 against the SEC in bowl games 2005 Wisconsin over Auburn in the CapitalOne Bowl Florida over Iowa in the Outback Bowl 2004 Iowa over LSU in the CapitalOne Georgia over Wisconsin in the Outback Minnesota over Alabama in the Music City 2003 Georiga over Purdue in the CapitalOne Iowa over Florida in the Outback Auburn over Wisconsin in the Music City 2002 Auburn over Penn State in the CapitalOne Michigan over Florida in the Outback Minnesota over Arkansas in the Music City I think this is another misleading stat. A lot of times bowls arent matched up evenly. Iowa maybe the 3rd best team in the Big Ten while say LSU could be the 4th or 5th best team, or vice versa. Its just hard to tell.
November 22, 200619 yr Why not go back to 2001? LSU 47 -34 over Illinois UT 45-17 over Michigan South Carolina 31-28 over Ohio St. Because 2002 was the year that most of the current bowl structure went into place. 2001 still had the Big East in the Music City Bowl. Besides, do we really need to go back to when the current group of Redshirt Seniors were in High School?
November 22, 200619 yr I think this is another misleading stat. A lot of times bowls arent matched up evenly. Iowa maybe the 3rd best team in the Big Ten while say LSU could be the 4th or 5th best team, or vice versa. Its just hard to tell.The SEC has only itself to blame for not taking teams in order, the Big 10 does. And the Capital One never has worse than the #3 SEC team.
November 22, 200619 yr The SEC has only itself to blame for not taking teams in order, the Big 10 does. And the Capital One never has worse than the #3 SEC team. Blame? Im simply stating that some bowls want different teams than others. An example is in 97 when UK went to the Outback Bowl. Georgia was better than UK but they picked UK. Then Penn St ended up winning. As for your stat, like 4chs showed, you can twist numbers however you want to support your argument.
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