November 9, 200619 yr :laugh: You guys are cracking me up. You can defend it all you want. Its dead wrong what UL did. Its classless and dishonest. UL made a decision that has changed Durhams's life. Its not as simple as just saying, oh I change my mind we dont want you. They lied to him. I'm not a UL fan, so I have no need to defend anything. Until you sign, it's an open ended verbal agreement. Once again, it was a bad move by UL, but one they felt they needed to make. You continue to talk about education, but as Ram pointed out, he's better off at UC or UK in terms of academics. He's been given FOUR months to pick up the pieces, and land at another BCS program. I guess you'd just be happy if they kept their word, pushed him to the side, and let us talk about his transfer to UK in two years...
November 9, 200619 yr I'm not a UL fan, so I have no need to defend anything. Until you sign, it's an open ended verbal agreement. Once again, it was a bad move by UL, but one they felt they needed to make. You continue to talk about education, but as Ram pointed out, he's better off at UC or UK in terms of academics. He's been given FOUR months to pick up the pieces, and land at another BCS program. I guess you'd just be happy if they kept their word, pushed him to the side, and let us talk about his transfer to UK in two years...Even after you sign, scholarships are "on a one year renewable basis"....so evaluations change and so do situations. Letter of Intent, are just that.....intent. No one likes to see scholarship "offers" withdrawn, but it nonetheless happens. Hopefully he can pursue other schools and it will work out for him. Louisville is not the first for this and they certainly won't be the last.
November 9, 200619 yr Even after you sign, scholarships are "on a one year renewable basis"....so evaluations change and so do situations. Letter of Intent, are just that.....intent. No one likes to see scholarship "offers" withdrawn, but it nonetheless happens. Hopefully he can pursue other schools and it will work out for him. Louisville is not the first for this and they certainly won't be the last. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
November 9, 200619 yr Something like this can't reflect well on Louisville, especially with the state kids. Could be one thing that prevents them from getting early commits, especially from the eastern part of the state now. I think this may be viewed a little differently if it were an out of state kid, but being an in stater, it seems like they really dropped the ball. Hope the kid can pick up somewhere that he gets the chance to play against them.
November 9, 200619 yr Hope the kid can pick up somewhere that he gets the chance to play against them. No place better than a BEast rival...
November 9, 200619 yr Something like this can't reflect well on Louisville, especially with the state kids. Could be one thing that prevents them from getting early commits, especially from the eastern part of the state now. I think this may be viewed a little differently if it were an out of state kid, but being an in stater, it seems like they really dropped the ball. Hope the kid can pick up somewhere that he gets the chance to play against them.I disagree, the reason its discussed "more" is because its an in-state player and locals made others aware of it. Most D1 athletes would tell you, if they had multiple offers....one school would say, "We want to make an offer and will get back with you on a % amount of a scholarship"....often times, the % amount will fluctuate or change, through negotiations by the player and family. Other times, it gets withdrawn. Look at this way, find something positive in this....If he went to Louisville, didn't get to play and was unhappy, he would then have to transfer, set out a year and lose eligibility if going to another D1....this way, he can find a school which wants him and hopefully, he can excel at. If he was out of state or region, this wouldn't be discussed.
November 9, 200619 yr I disagree, the reason its discussed "more" is because its an in-state player and locals made others aware of it. Most D1 athletes would tell you, if they had multiple offers....one school would say, "We want to make an offer and will get back with you on a % amount of a scholarship"....often times, the % amount will fluctuate or change, through negotiations by the player and family. Other times, it gets withdrawn. Look at this way, find something positive in this....If he went to Louisville, didn't get to play and was unhappy, he would then have to transfer, set out a year and lose eligibility if going to another D1....this way, he can find a school which wants him and hopefully, he can excel at. If he was out of state or region, this wouldn't be discussed. Coaches are aware of this stuff at the high school and college level. Other schools will use that against UL when talking to a kid or if a high school coach knows of something like this he can make sure the kid knows about it.
November 9, 200619 yr Coaches are aware of this stuff at the high school and college level. Other schools will use that against UL when talking to a kid or if a high school coach knows of something like this he can make sure the kid knows about it.Some coaches will always try to "persuade" or "dissuade" a player from certain schools, for various reasons. Ultimately the choice must be the Players and Parents, to which school he continues his education, while participating in intercollegiate athletics. I would assume most posters on BGP would agree with this statement....they know more players who have "left a college, after enrolling and playing 1 year or so", than they do know who had an offer and then had it withdrawn. To me, a player committing to a college, than leaving for whatever reason is much worse, as the college now must scramble to find a replacement. In this instance, this young man can find another college and not have his eligibility affected.
November 9, 200619 yr Something like this can't reflect well on Louisville, especially with the state kids. Could be one thing that prevents them from getting early commits, especially from the eastern part of the state now. I think this may be viewed a little differently if it were an out of state kid, but being an in stater, it seems like they really dropped the ball. Hope the kid can pick up somewhere that he gets the chance to play against them. Two things...I don't think that they rely on EKY kids much now...nor do I see that happening much in the future...their bread (with in-state kids) is buttered here in Louisville and the bigger cities in KY...
November 9, 200619 yr Coaches are aware of this stuff at the high school and college level. Other schools will use that against UL when talking to a kid or if a high school coach knows of something like this he can make sure the kid knows about it. Sure enough...but keep in mind that U of L could certainly use it as well.
November 9, 200619 yr When Louisville offered, I'm sure they didn't intend to back out later. Like I told LMB, it's not just unfair to call Louisville's coaches liars, it's borderline stupid, because there wasn't likely any deception. When they offered, they intended Durham to be a Cardinal. But when they did decide, for whatever reason, that Durham and Louisville weren't the right fit, it's better in my opinion that they didn't keep him on with false hope, when he could (and will!) be a starter elsewhere. I'm not sure what you are trying to do here? Call someone on here stupid? I know it cant be me as I did not call them liars...but I'm wondering what you were trying to do with this post. Im also not sure where I said they were liars...since you were referring to my post.
November 9, 200619 yr Two things...I don't think that they rely on EKY kids much now...nor do I see that happening much in the future...their bread (with in-state kids) is buttered here in Louisville and the bigger cities in KY... I realize they dont use EKY much, but it can still get around to the state kids. Its not that big of a state.
November 9, 200619 yr Sure enough...but keep in mind that U of L could certainly use it as well. Use THIS to their advantage? Explain that to me.
November 9, 200619 yr This year in particular...they could reference that they "freed" a spot for another kid...
November 9, 200619 yr To me, a player committing to a college, than leaving for whatever reason is much worse, as the college now must scramble to find a replacement. In this instance, this young man can find another college and not have his eligibility affected. No way, many colleges bring in more players than what they need...no sympathy here for the colleges.
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