Not mine, necessarily. Anytime you kill a "fetus" that could possibly survive outside the womb, its murder.

 

How, then, do we determine whether or not the fetus could survive? Especially given the anti-science attitude that seems so pervasive among those on the right?

You can't legislate morality. Outlaw abortion, and mother and baby end up dying. Outlaw divorce you create abuse. Outlaw booze or drugs you create a black market. Education is the only answer. The ONLY answer.

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before you were formed in the womb, I knew you". Man found out how to do abortions, and they are wrong. Only to save the Mother's life should one happen. Thats my $00.02 if anyone wants to know, otherwise just ignore me.

The 14 year old is a result of his actions. What actions did the unborn child have to warrant losing his life?

 

This suggests that the injustices perpetrated upon the 14 year old had nothing to do with his actions.

 

Have you ever been truly poor, or hungry, or unloved? Any of those things might cause you to do things that you would normally not do.

 

Have you seen Les Miserables?

For me it's simple.....4 weeks after conception the unborn child's heart starts to beat....If that isn't a sign of life then none of us are living.

You can't legislate morality. Outlaw abortion, and mother and baby end up dying. Outlaw divorce you create abuse. Outlaw booze or drugs you create a black market. Education is the only answer. The ONLY answer.

If in education you are talking about schools, I disagree and I am a teacher that works my ample rear off for my students.

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before you were formed in the womb, I knew you". Man found out how to do abortions, and they are wrong. Only to save the Mother's life should one happen. Thats my $00.02 if anyone wants to know, otherwise just ignore me.

NEVER

How, then, do we determine whether or not the fetus could survive? Especially given the anti-science attitude that seems so pervasive among those on the right?

That's already known as concluded in this New England Journal of Medicince article:

 

Conclusions We believe that aggressive resuscitation of infantsborn at 25 weeks' gestation is indicated, but not of those bornat 22 weeks. Whether the occasional child who is born at 23or 24 weeks' gestation and does well justifies the considerablemortality and morbidity of the majority is a question that shouldbe discussed by parents, health care providers, and society.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/329/22/1597

For me it's simple.....4 weeks after conception the unborn child's heart starts to beat....If that isn't a sign of life then none of us are living.

 

 

I'm pretty Pro-Life but I've seen lots of people who have a heartbeat but whose brain and being checked out long before their body shut down.

That's already known as concluded in this New England Journal of Medicince article:

 

Conclusions We believe that aggressive resuscitation of infantsborn at 25 weeks' gestation is indicated, but not of those bornat 22 weeks. Whether the occasional child who is born at 23or 24 weeks' gestation and does well justifies the considerablemortality and morbidity of the majority is a question that shouldbe discussed by parents, health care providers, and society.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/329/22/1597

 

Thanks, HHSDad. I've never seen that before. Very interesting.

 

 

Frances