October 25, 200619 yr What group has decided (with a medical certainty) that Abortion is murder? Does the AMA have a stance on it?
October 25, 200619 yr Do we have to have a medical group decide with certainity to know that a life has stopped?
October 25, 200619 yr May 19, 1997 The Honorable Rick Santorum United States Senate 120 Russell Senate Office Building Washington, D.C. 20510 Dear Senator Santorum: The American Medical Association (AMA) is writing to support HR 1122, "The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1997," as amended. Although our general policy is to oppose legislation criminalizing medical practice or procedure, the AMA has supported such legislation where the procedure was narrowly defined and not medically indicated. HR 1122 now meets both those tests. Our support of this legislation is based on three specific principles. First, the bill would allow a legitimate exception where the life of the mother was endangered, thereby preserving the physician's judgment to take any medically necessary steps to save the life of the mother. Second, the bill would clearly define the prohibited procedure so that it is clear on the face of the legislation what act is to be banned. Finally, the bill would give any accused physician the right to have his or her conduct reviewed by the State Medical Board before a criminal trial commenced. In this manner, the bill would provide a formal role for valuable medical peer determination in any enforcement proceeding. The AMA believes that with these changes, physicians will be on notice as to the exact nature of the prohibited conduct. Thank you for the opportunity to work with you towards restricting a procedure we all agree is not good medicine. Sincerely, P. John Seward, MD Executive Vice President American Medical Association
October 25, 200619 yr What group has decided (with a medical certainty) that Abortion is murder? Does the AMA have a stance on it? I have to ask - why did you choose to use the term "murder" in your question? Frances
October 25, 200619 yr Author i got it on the partial birth, but what about the first 24 weeks. Thank your for the non-snide reply. If it is well understood that that it is murder, then why sooo many doctors? Are they all just stupid idiots that want the money, and why are they not prosecuted?
October 25, 200619 yr Author I have to ask - why did you choose to use the term "murder" in your question? Frances That would be the only reason for outlawing it I would think? Would it not?
October 25, 200619 yr Author Do we have to have a medical group decide with certainity to know that a life has stopped? i guess the biggest concern is deciding when it started
October 25, 200619 yr Do we have to have a medical group decide with certainity to know that a life has stopped? Yes, I think so. Otherwise there would be grief-stricken people asking hospital or other medical personnel to keep performing CPR, etc., to try and revive a corpse. You also might have crazy people keeping corpses in their homes because they are unwilling to let go of their deceased loved ones.
October 25, 200619 yr i got it on the partial birth, but what about the first 24 weeks. Thank your for the non-snide reply. If it is well understood that that it is murder, then why sooo many doctors? Are they all just stupid idiots that want the money, and why are they not prosecuted? Our society and legal system has decided an unborn child is a choice with no rights unless someone other than the mother through her choice decides to end their life. They are a life, if I decide to end their life, they are not if they mother does.
October 25, 200619 yr Yes, I think so. Otherwise there would be grief-stricken people asking hospital or other medical personnel to keep performing CPR, etc., to try and revive a corpse. You also might have crazy people keeping corpses in their homes because they are unwilling to let go of their deceased loved ones. In those cases, yes. I was referring to abortions of unborn children which is the topic of the thread.
October 25, 200619 yr In those cases, yes. I was referring to abortions of unborn children which is the topic of the thread. Right, but why should there be any difference between beginning and end? I think it is important to have an expert in the field lay down guidelines for the definition.
October 25, 200619 yr If it is well understood that that it is murder, then why sooo many doctors? Are they all just stupid idiots that want the money, and why are they not prosecuted? First off it is not well understood that it is murder. I would say the medical community is as split on abortion as the public is. The AMA's main concern is they don't want medical practices legislated by the government, period.
October 25, 200619 yr Right, but why should there be any difference between beginning and end? I think it is important to have an expert in the field lay down guidelines for the definition. Not sure that is capable of being done, as far as answering the question, when does life begin.
October 25, 200619 yr Author First off it is not well understood that it is murder. I would say the medical community is as split on abortion as the public is. The AMA's main concern is they don't want medical practices legislated by the government, period. Why then do many people in the general population think it is murder. Who has told them that it was? If the medical community is split, why would we want to legislate the practice? Those who "think" it is murder would not perform the procedure, and those who do not "think" it is murder would?
October 25, 200619 yr Why then do many people in the general population think it is murder. Who has told them that it was? If the medical community is split, why would we want to legislate the practice? Those who "think" it is murder would not perform the procedure, and those who do not "think" it is murder would? For this person, I see an unborn baby as a human being that is taking their life from them. To me, that is murder. Someone making a conscious effort to end another human being's life.
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