What is improper ownership? You keep saying that. Let's have a definition.

 

It sounds like you're saying if a dog is properly owned, it is impossible for said dog to attack someone. Surely that's not what you're saying, but that's surely what it sounds like.

 

If a pit bull is always in a securely fenced in area, how is it going to magically go next door and kill the kids?

 

If a pit bull is never allowed around small children, how will it kill one?

What is improper ownership? You keep saying that. Let's have a definition.

 

It sounds like you're saying if a dog is properly owned, it is impossible for said dog to attack someone. Surely that's not what you're saying, but that's surely what it sounds like.

 

If a dog is properly trained. If a dog is living in proper conditions. If a dog is properly fed and groomed, and health is kept up. If a dog is not left alone with children. These are all aspects of proper ownership of any pet.

If a pit bull is always in a securely fenced in area, how is it going to magically go next door and kill the kids?

 

If a pit bull is never allowed around small children, how will it kill one?

 

So, your beautiful harmless puppy has to be stored in a secure, chain-linked fence at all times? That's ironic.

 

Convicted murderers are often kept the same way.

Except I'm not the one posting statics to try and sweep those under a rug.

I'm not sweeping anything under the rug. I'm trying to put things in perspective. There are at least 3.6 million (possibly as many as 7 million) pitty bully type dogs in the US. I don't want to minimize any single death of any person by ANY dog, but if 21 pit bulls killed someone last year...well, that's quite a few that didn't kill anyone. To make them out to be vicious killers seems inaccurate based on statistics.

So, your beautiful harmless puppy has to be stored in a secure, chain-linked fence at all times? That's ironic.

 

Convicted murderers are often kept the same way.

 

Any pet should be properly secured in their owner's property at all times. Whether that be outdoors by fencing, indoors, in a crate, etc.

 

This isn't rocket-science.

So, your beautiful harmless puppy has to be stored in a secure, chain-linked fence at all times? That's ironic.

 

Convicted murderers are often kept the same way.

 

Nope, doesn't have to be. But that is responsible dog ownership of ANY breed.

 

My neighbor has a chain link fenced in back yard for his Golden Doodles. Are they convicted murderers too? What about the beagles next door? :lol2: Incredibly weak argument.

It always goes to this and this is the most ridiculous argument of all time. Guns don't snap and suddenly kill people. You can't compare tools of death to creatures of death.

More kids are killed each year by children who find guns than by pit bulls. Similar to your thoughts and judgments on pit bulls, do we consider the gun or the toddler with a gun to be dangerous.

I'm not sweeping anything under the rug. I'm trying to put things in perspective. There are at least 3.6 million (possibly as many as 7 million) pitty bully type dogs in the US. I don't want to minimize any single death of any person by ANY dog, but if 21 pit bulls killed someone last year...well, that's quite a few that didn't kill anyone. To make them out to be vicious killers seems inaccurate based on statistics.

 

Kinda like cops who kill people... Thousands of interactions, only a few deaths, yet we aren't supposed to label them all.

Kinda like cops who kill people... Thousands of interactions, only a few deaths, yet we aren't supposed to label them all.

 

It's funny because the same people after pits are those that defend the cops...

No, I think pit bulls are the dog breed most likely to kill a human.

That may be your thought, but it is incorrect. If you look at total deaths per total population of dogs, three breeds rank higher. 1) Rottweiler 2) German Shepherd 3) Chow.

That may be your thought, but it is incorrect. If you look at total deaths per total population of dogs, three breeds rank higher. 1) Rottweiler 2) German Shepherd 3) Chow.

 

Whoops again.

I'm not sweeping anything under the rug. I'm trying to put things in perspective. There are at least 3.6 million (possibly as many as 7 million) pitty bully type dogs in the US. I don't want to minimize any single death of any person by ANY dog, but if 21 pit bulls killed someone last year...well, that's quite a few that didn't kill anyone. To make them out to be vicious killers seems inaccurate based on statistics.

You are looking at it wrong. The total of fatal dog attacks isn't very high. So either we are in the position that the number is so low overall there's nothing we can do about it or we make changes where we can.

 

2016 saw 31 deaths. 22 of those were from pit pulls. The next highest was Rottweilers at 2. So if we want to try get that 31 number to as close to zero as possible don't you think a good place to start is pit bulls? There is a reason some many of the deaths are cause by pit bulls. That can't simply be bad owners. That's a lazy excuse in my opinion without facts to back it up. Could it be the case, sure. But if we are serious about eliminating these deaths we need to quit digging in our heels on both side. I don't think pits need to be banned. But if bad ownership is leading to the majority of dog attacks then we need to put some serious restrictions in place. Background checks, home visits, whatever it takes.

You are looking at it wrong. The total of fatal dog attacks isn't very high. So either we are in the position that the number is so low overall there's nothing we can do about it or we make changes where we can.

 

2016 saw 31 deaths. 22 of those were from pit pulls. The next highest was Rottweilers at 2. So if we want to try get that 31 number to as close to zero as possible don't you think a good place to start is pit bulls? There is a reason some many of the deaths are cause by pit bulls. That can't simply be bad owners. That's a lazy excuse in my opinion without facts to back it up. Could it be the case, sure. But if we are serious about eliminating these deaths we need to quit digging in our heels on both side. I don't think pits need to be banned. But if bad ownership is leading to the majority of dog attacks then we need to put some serious restrictions in place. Background checks, home visits, whatever it takes.

 

Bad ownership practices is only a lazy excuse because you don't agree with it.

So, your beautiful harmless puppy has to be stored in a secure, chain-linked fence at all times? That's ironic.

 

Convicted murderers are often kept the same way.

My beautiful maybe not harmless non-pit bull is kept securely in my house or is out with me only while leashed. That is proper securement of a dog that could possibly be a risk.

Again, are we going to put better restrictions, background checks and home visits for gun owners too?

 

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