Haha I promise you the P5 conferences aren't worried about a G5 school proving they belong, because they don't.

 

You have no idea if any of the G5 teams would lose to the P5 teams any more than I know they would win. I don't think OSU could stop UCF's offense.

Every couple of years you'll get a team like Houston who has a ton of talent and a great coach, who have a couple big schools on their schedule. Houston beat Oklahoma and Louisville last year but loss two inexcusable conference games. But they also beat FSU the previous year in the Peach Bowl. If Houston doesn't lose those two games last year inexplicably they make the playoff.

You have no idea if any of the G5 teams would lose to the P5 teams any more than I know they would win. I don't think OSU could stop UCF's offense.

:lol2:

Again... no OSU fan will complain on this board is we don’t get in because we didn’t completely take care of business. Sure beating Wisky, Penn State, Michigan St and Michigan should count for something but losing to Iowa is bad. If we get in, great... I guess? If we’re out, we’re out.

If we're out I REALLY hope we get USC in Phoenix.

Again... no OSU fan will complain on this board is we don’t get in because we didn’t completely take care of business. Sure beating Wisky, Penn State, Michigan St and Michigan should count for something but losing to Iowa is bad. If we get in, great... I guess? If we’re out, we’re out.

 

Maybe not on this board. But I know OSU fans that will lose their mind. :lol2:

I don't know.

 

Did OSU? Did Bama?

:idunno: it's not like OSU is scared to schedule big OOC games

If Penn state didn’t get in last year, no way Ohio State deserves to this year.

The FACT that Alabama didn't even play in their conference's championship game SHOULD end the debate.

 

Disagree, OSU didn’t play in theirs last year.

Ask Clemson, Georgia, and Oklahoma who the DON'T want to play. That should be enough to let you know. I don't think any want any part of the Tide.

Disagree, OSU didn’t play in theirs last year.

OSU had 3 wins over teams who finished in the top 10 of the FINAL rankings last year. What part of that is so hard for you haters to understand? Alabama doesn't have a win over a top 15 team this year. Not even remotely the same conversation as OSU last year.

Ask Clemson, Georgia, and Oklahoma who the DON'T want to play. That should be enough to let you know. I don't think any want any part of the Tide.

 

I’d argue that Clemson wouldn’t mind Bama. But they’d want OSU for an easier game.

Bama is a competent LSU QB, and Dan Mullen growing a pair, away from having 3 losses.

OSU had 3 wins over teams who finished in the top 10 of the FINAL rankings last year. What part of that is so hard for you haters to understand? Alabama doesn't have a win over a top 15 team this year. Not even remotely the same conversation as OSU last year.

 

I’m not worried about Bama. I’m worried about the committees inconsistency. Last year, conference championships didn’t matter. PSU was clearly the better team yet got jumped. why’s that so hard to understand?

I’m not worried about Bama. I’m worried about the committees inconsistency. Last year, conference championships didn’t matter. PSU was clearly the better team yet got jumped. why’s that so hard to understand?

 

Penn State was clearly better than who? Surely you aren't saying they were clearly better than OSU. Because that game was decided on a blocked FG in Happy Valley if that's your determination for "clearly better" then all hope is lost for you.

Here's the way it SHOULD work to qualify for the Playoff.

 

A - be a P5 and win your conference championship with 0 or 1 loss

B - be a P5 non-champion with only 1 loss with a strong SOS (incl. at least 1 good OOC game and some good conference wins)

 

If there aren't 4 teams that meet the criteria under A and B, is there a G5 team that went undefeated? If yes, they get in.

 

In 2017, Clemson, OU & Georgia meet the A&B test above. You have to answer the B question as to Bama. I'd argue they did enough b/c FSU in the opener was supposed to be a good game and the SEC was barely good enough this year to qualify. That said, I could certainly see someone arguing the flip side of that.

 

To me, 2 loss P5 team should not get in over undefeated G5 team. Has nothing to do with who would be favored by Vegas or anything else. Under the above system, P5 has ALL the advantages in the world and completely control their own destiny in the Playoff, but you'd at least give G5 teams a sliver of "hope" at the beginning of the year and as the season goes on that they CAN get in. If they can NEVER get in, Kanell is right - this is just an invitational.