October 10, 200619 yr NO Start a thread entitled "Anyone Miss Guy Morriss?" Could get a different response from the members.
October 10, 200619 yr We didn't play any defense, but we don't play any now. With receivers like Burton, (I can't think of the other guys name) and Little out of the backfield, just imagine. Now blast me. I think maybe that you coluld refer your question to Dusty Bonner and you would get the true answer to your question. :irked:
October 10, 200619 yr I miss Guy Morris alot more than I miss Hal Mumme. Mumme belongs in Division III or better yet, real estate sales.
October 10, 200619 yr I miss Guy Morris alot more than I miss Hal Mumme. Mumme belongs in Division III or better yet, real estate sales. :thumb: :thumb: I 100% agree, best post on this thread.
October 10, 200619 yr YES College football and UK football was fun in those days. I agree UK football was fun in those days, but because of Mumme's actions along with help from some other jerks, it is not fun today!!
October 10, 200619 yr YES College football and UK football was fun in those days. It may have been FUN to watch and his offense, certainly was....BUT Cheating is cheating, improper is improper and probation resulted under Mumme's watch....This character, had no character and he can coach all he wants, at New Mexico State or wherever he's faded off to. Brooks or Mumme, is no comparison at all....I'll take Brooks over him, any day.
October 10, 200619 yr It may have been FUN to watch and his offense, certainly was....BUT Cheating is cheating, improper is improper and probation resulted under Mumme's watch....This character, had no character and he can coach all he wants, at New Mexico State or wherever he's faded off to. Brooks or Mumme, is no comparison at all....I'll take Brooks over him, any day. I would love to have had a clean Mumme coaching at UK. Was it ever shown how much Mumme knew about what Bassett was doing? My impression was that Mumme delegated a lot of the off-the-field stuff and didn't get involved too much until the visits to the home. It is still his fault because he is the guy in charge who delegated it out.
October 10, 200619 yr I would love to have had a clean Mumme coaching at UK. Was it ever shown how much Mumme knew about what Bassett was doing? My impression was that Mumme delegated a lot of the off-the-field stuff and didn't get involved too much until the visits to the home. It is still his fault because he is the guy in charge who delegated it out. I remember a fairly detailed thread or two, about the Mumme regime and the scandal..... I'll say this, I've been around sports a long time at many levels and when a defensive or offensive coordinator, makes offers or violates rules in some manner....he's very seldom, sailed on that ship by himself or without some discussion with the captain...:thumb:
October 10, 200619 yr I remember a fairly detailed thread or two, about the Mumme regime and the scandal..... I'll say this, I've been around sports a long time at many levels and when a defensive or offensive coordinator, makes offers or violates rules in some manner....he's very seldom, sailed on that ship by himself or without some discussion with the captain...:thumb: I could believe it both ways. Mumme's style of coaching gave an impression that he might not be the most responsible person in the world. And I could see him telling "Bassett that he was in charge and just get the top athletes in here." And Bassett took off. And I could see Mumme telling Bassett to offer a few some "perks" to get them here and overcome the UK football stigma.
October 10, 200619 yr I could believe it both ways. Mumme's style of coaching gave an impression that he might not be the most responsible person in the world. And I could see him telling "Bassett that he was in charge and just get the top athletes in here." And Bassett took off. And I could see Mumme telling Bassett to offer a few some "perks" to get them here and overcome the UK football stigma. If he had Coordinators, breaking NCAA rules violations and he wasn't aware of what they were doing, then Mumme didn't have a clue, as to what type of people they were and certainly, wasn't in charge of his program. I've commented before, that UK fans are deserving of a winning program and 17 winning seasons, in the last 52 is not good....but I would rather lose with integrity, than look away from a mirror when I pass it....I wonder how many times, Mumme could look in that mirror.
October 10, 200619 yr If he had Coordinators, breaking NCAA rules violations and he wasn't aware of what they were doing, then Mumme didn't have a clue, as to what type of people they were and certainly, wasn't in charge of his program. I've commented before, that UK fans are deserving of a winning program and 17 winning seasons, in the last 52 is not good....but I would rather lose with integrity, than look away from a mirror when I pass it....I wonder how many times, Mumme could look in that mirror. I believe the first is true. I believe he was clueless and wasn't in charge. He just wanted to coach football and passed off the other stuff. And for that he was at fault as much as if he had did it. And should have been fired. I would 100% agree and the reason why I get so frustrated with Bengals fans who just want to win and don't care about the quality of the character of the players for the Bengals.
October 10, 200619 yr If he had Coordinators, breaking NCAA rules violations and he wasn't aware of what they were doing, then Mumme didn't have a clue, as to what type of people they were and certainly, wasn't in charge of his program. I've commented before, that UK fans are deserving of a winning program and 17 winning seasons, in the last 52 is not good....but I would rather lose with integrity, than look away from a mirror when I pass it....I wonder how many times, Mumme could look in that mirror. :thumb: Another great post strike, Imo there is no way that Bumme didn't know what was going on, NO WAY! Anyone who thinks that he honestly didn't know must be living ina dream world or something. Basset imo was the one doing the dirty work that Mumme was in charge of and promoting. The thing that bothers me the most is that Mumme is off pretty much free and the UK program is still suffering from it.:madman:
October 10, 200619 yr :thumb: Another great post strike, Imo there is no way that Bumme didn't know what was going on, NO WAY! Anyone who thinks that he honestly didn't know must be living ina dream world or something. Basset imo was the one doing the dirty work that Mumme was in charge of and promoting. The thing that bothers me the most is that Mumme is off pretty much free and the UK program is still suffering from it.:madman: I agree that the probation should follow the coach. He is the responsible person.
October 10, 200619 yr I've commented before, that UK fans are deserving of a winning program and 17 winning seasons, in the last 52 is not good....but I would rather lose with integrity, than look away from a mirror when I pass it....I wonder how many times, Mumme could look in that mirror. :thumb: I believe that Mumme can look in that mirror every day bc he has no respect/morals or integrity and doesn't care about anything but himself. :madman:
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