For those that think Kentucky is so far behind the thinking of other states, here is a breakdown comparing other states that most closely compare population size to Kentucky.

 

Oklahoma has 500,000 less population than KY, has 11 Classes for Football

Oregon has 300,000 less population than KY, has 6 Classes for Football

South Carolina has 300,000 more population than KY, has 10 Classes for Football

Louisiana has 250,000 more population than KY, has 9 Classes for Football

Alabama has 450,000 more population than KY, has 12 Classes for Football

The downside is that creates larger districts, and more blowout, bad matchups in district play, and giving teams who wish to schedule tougher out of district games less opportunity and flexibility to do so. And you'll still have playoff and finals blowouts.

Nothing can be done to keep that from happening, there will always be blow outs in every round. Granted their could be a few less in the first round if some teams were left out...but no one complains in other sports when they have first round blow outs?

Good luck getting coaches to participate in the voting. And I don't know that coaches are anymore qualified than any one else to vote. For example, how many coaches in NKY know anything about 3A teams?? Plus, I can guarantee there are enough grudges, feuds, and bias out there that politics would likely play a pretty large role in the voting.

 

I also think the idea of monkeying around with the season in order to accommodate a "All Division Championship" game after the State Championship has already been played is bad. Especially if you want to eliminate the bye week, which I think coaches universally like. Anything the further condenses or makes scheduling less flexible is, IMO, not smart, especially to play a game in the grand scheme of things, would mean very little.

 

The idea sounds fun. But I think it's more fun to talk about who would win something like this, than it would be to actually watch it play out. Playing a championship after a championship is simply anti-climatic, and does nothing for the sport or the teams involved.

Appreciate your opinion, and can't find fault with all your reasons it won't work. I, for one, (granted old and retired) could sure get excited about the whole concept. As to fall break being universally liked, I have never thought that to be the case at all. The mid-season disruption of routine I have heard much grumbling and the large number of teams not playing in week zero, kind of speaks more than a few coaches opinions.

For those that think Kentucky is so far behind the thinking of other states, here is a breakdown comparing other states that most closely compare population size to Kentucky.

 

Oklahoma has 500,000 less population than KY, has 11 Classes for Football

Oregon has 300,000 less population than KY, has 6 Classes for Football

South Carolina has 300,000 more population than KY, has 10 Classes for Football

Louisiana has 250,000 more population than KY, has 9 Classes for Football

Alabama has 450,000 more population than KY, has 12 Classes for Football

 

Nobody touching this? :lol2:

 

Nice post JD

I'm not a fan of this idea. Indiana did this in basketball when they split classes and I hated it when I was living there.

 

Doing it in football is even worse of an idea, in my opinion. I agree with what @rjs4470 said.

 

Indiana. There's your problem. To quote Obi Wan, "You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

5 would be just right ....

The downside is that creates larger districts, and more blowout, bad matchups in district play, and giving teams who wish to schedule tougher out of district games less opportunity and flexibility to do so. And you'll still have playoff and finals blowouts.

 

Even if you are in a 7-team district, you get four games to schedule on your own accord. Assuming 2 of your district opponents are weak, you do NOT need a cupcake for non district (yet some teams think they still do).

 

Another thing about the larger classes is they negate travel during the season and tend to pair you up with former rivals. Central Hardin has more in common with John Hardin than say Muhlenberg. John Hardin would rather play a game with meaning against North Hardin or Nelson than Valley or Western. Valley and Western would rather stay in The Ville than have to go to Breckinridge County amd Hardin County.

 

Then, of course, with these small districts, you have horrendous teams "qualifying" for the playoffs. IIRC, I don't remember any playoff forfeits in the four class days, but they are happening in the six class days.

Even if you are in a 7-team district, you get four games to schedule on your own accord. Assuming 2 of your district opponents are weak, you do NOT need a cupcake for non district (yet some teams think they still do).

 

Another thing about the larger classes is they negate travel during the season and tend to pair you up with former rivals. Central Hardin has more in common with John Hardin than say Muhlenberg. John Hardin would rather play a game with meaning against North Hardin or Nelson than Valley or Western. Valley and Western would rather stay in The Ville than have to go to Breckinridge County amd Hardin County.

 

Then, of course, with these small districts, you have horrendous teams "qualifying" for the playoffs. IIRC, I don't remember any playoff forfeits in the four class days, but they are happening in the six class days.

 

Fair enough. I still think for the most part, and especially for bigger schools (and/or the top teams), most of the added district games would likely be bad games. Also, while you'd still have 4 out of district games to "schedule up", losing two weeks, gives you less flexibility, and makes that tougher to do, especially the way the playoff system is set up, and the way the state mandates the scheduling grid.

The scheduling grid was far more lenient in the four class days, especially in districts with five or seven teams because someone always had a non district game.

For those that think Kentucky is so far behind the thinking of other states, here is a breakdown comparing other states that most closely compare population size to Kentucky.

 

Oklahoma has 500,000 less population than KY, has 11 Classes for Football

Oregon has 300,000 less population than KY, has 6 Classes for Football

South Carolina has 300,000 more population than KY, has 10 Classes for Football

Louisiana has 250,000 more population than KY, has 9 Classes for Football

Alabama has 450,000 more population than KY, has 12 Classes for Football

Somebody trying to confuse things with facts?

For those that think Kentucky is so far behind the thinking of other states, here is a breakdown comparing other states that most closely compare population size to Kentucky.

 

Oklahoma has 500,000 less population than KY, has 11 Classes for Football

Oregon has 300,000 less population than KY, has 6 Classes for Football

South Carolina has 300,000 more population than KY, has 10 Classes for Football

Louisiana has 250,000 more population than KY, has 9 Classes for Football

Alabama has 450,000 more population than KY, has 12 Classes for Football

 

 

Nice facts!!

 

Why would any state need that many classes? Makes me curious how many Texas and California have...... This shocks me.... Am I the only one?

Nice facts!!

 

Why would any state need that many classes? Makes me curious how many Texas and California have...... This shocks me.... Am I the only one?

 

Looks like CA has 18 state championships each year

 

List of California state high school football champions - Wikipedia

Nice facts!!

 

Why would any state need that many classes? Makes me curious how many Texas and California have...... This shocks me.... Am I the only one?

 

Texas has 30

 

California has 70 classes but they are not State wide they are divided geographically...they end up with 13 State Champs on the list I looked at.

Nice facts!!

 

Why would any state need that many classes? Makes me curious how many Texas and California have...... This shocks me.... Am I the only one?

 

The biggest thing that most people never think about is the disparity in school size within a given class. Even with 6 classes Ky has the following difference in school sizes between the largest and smallest in each class.

 

6A 700-1377 96.7% difference

5A 528-699 32.4% difference

4A 421-527 25.2% difference

3A 316-420 32.9% difference

2A 200-315 57.5% difference

1A 51-201 291.1% difference

 

Having 25% or more boys to draw from is quite a disadvantage to overcome, especially for smaller school.

The biggest thing that most people never think about is the disparity in school size within a given class. Even with 6 classes Ky has the following difference in school sizes between the largest and smallest in each class.

 

 

 

6A 700-1377 96.7% difference

5A 528-699 32.4% difference

4A 421-527 25.2% difference

3A 316-420 32.9% difference

2A 200-315 57.5% difference

1A 51-201 291.1% difference

 

Having 25% or more boys to draw from is quite a disadvantage to overcome, especially for smaller school.

 

I never thought of it this way..... Great point!