October 14, 20178 yr Author What I think was missed is that they allegedly had tutors and managers writing papers for these classes (and others) for players, were they doing that for regular students too?
October 15, 20178 yr So what is the difference between what UNC did and Harrick did at UGA? Harrick had other students besides basketball players in his class and they were charged with academic fraud. Coach gave every student an A Talk about a slam dunk. Most college students dream of getting a final exam with questions such as: How many points is a 3-pointer worth? That was among the questions on basic basketball knowledge on the final exam -- and only test -- in Georgia assistant basketball coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class in 2001. The 20-question test and transcripts of interviews with some of the students in Harrick's class were among 1,500 pages of documents released Wednesday by the university in its response to the NCAA about rules violations in the basketball program. The university agreed with the NCAA's findings, which included violations of academic fraud and improper benefits. Harrick's father, Jim Sr., was suspended, then resigned as coach. The younger Harrick lost his job as an assistant, and the school kept the team out of the Southeastern Conference and NCAA tournaments. The NCAA concluded Harrick Jr. "fraudulently awarded grades of A to three men's basketball student-athletes" enrolled in the course he taught in 2001, allowing them to miss class and tests. Harrick Jr. also allegedly provided an extra benefit to student athletes by the manner in which he conducted the course, the NCAA found. An attorney for the Harricks said Wednesday that Harrick Jr. would not comment. A federal lawsuit filed last week accuses university officials and others of defamation. The names of Harrick's students who were interviewed were blacked out in the papers. All the students in the class were given an A grade, according to the documents.
October 15, 20178 yr So what is the difference between what UNC did and Harrick did at UGA? Harrick had other students besides basketball players in his class and they were charged with academic fraud. Coach gave every student an A Talk about a slam dunk. Most college students dream of getting a final exam with questions such as: How many points is a 3-pointer worth? That was among the questions on basic basketball knowledge on the final exam -- and only test -- in Georgia assistant basketball coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class in 2001. The 20-question test and transcripts of interviews with some of the students in Harrick's class were among 1,500 pages of documents released Wednesday by the university in its response to the NCAA about rules violations in the basketball program. The university agreed with the NCAA's findings, which included violations of academic fraud and improper benefits. Harrick's father, Jim Sr., was suspended, then resigned as coach. The younger Harrick lost his job as an assistant, and the school kept the team out of the Southeastern Conference and NCAA tournaments. The NCAA concluded Harrick Jr. "fraudulently awarded grades of A to three men's basketball student-athletes" enrolled in the course he taught in 2001, allowing them to miss class and tests. Harrick Jr. also allegedly provided an extra benefit to student athletes by the manner in which he conducted the course, the NCAA found. An attorney for the Harricks said Wednesday that Harrick Jr. would not comment. A federal lawsuit filed last week accuses university officials and others of defamation. The names of Harrick's students who were interviewed were blacked out in the papers. All the students in the class were given an A grade, according to the documents. It really boils down to the school’s willingness to do the right thing. I am totally shocked that UNC has decided that the basketball program is greater than the school’s academic integrity.
October 15, 20178 yr It really boils down to the school’s willingness to do the right thing. I am totally shocked that UNC has decided that the basketball program is greater than the school’s academic integrity. Are we gonna pretend that Duke, Kansas or Kentucky would do the opposite?
October 15, 20178 yr Are we gonna pretend that Duke, Kansas or Kentucky would do the opposite? Don’t know. In 1989 Dr Roselle cooperated beyond normal with the ncaa and some believed brought the hammer down even harder. KY cleaned house and shouldered the blame rather than hire a team of lawyers.
October 15, 20178 yr So what is the difference between what UNC did and Harrick did at UGA? Harrick had other students besides basketball players in his class and they were charged with academic fraud. Coach gave every student an A Talk about a slam dunk. Most college students dream of getting a final exam with questions such as: How many points is a 3-pointer worth? That was among the questions on basic basketball knowledge on the final exam -- and only test -- in Georgia assistant basketball coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class in 2001. The 20-question test and transcripts of interviews with some of the students in Harrick's class were among 1,500 pages of documents released Wednesday by the university in its response to the NCAA about rules violations in the basketball program. The university agreed with the NCAA's findings, which included violations of academic fraud and improper benefits. Harrick's father, Jim Sr., was suspended, then resigned as coach. The younger Harrick lost his job as an assistant, and the school kept the team out of the Southeastern Conference and NCAA tournaments. The NCAA concluded Harrick Jr. "fraudulently awarded grades of A to three men's basketball student-athletes" enrolled in the course he taught in 2001, allowing them to miss class and tests. Harrick Jr. also allegedly provided an extra benefit to student athletes by the manner in which he conducted the course, the NCAA found. An attorney for the Harricks said Wednesday that Harrick Jr. would not comment. A federal lawsuit filed last week accuses university officials and others of defamation. The names of Harrick's students who were interviewed were blacked out in the papers. All the students in the class were given an A grade, according to the documents. Difference is one is Georgia and one is North Carolina
October 15, 20178 yr The "findings" were as I predicted ... A Joke ! When it comes to UNC, as one of the ncaa's "chosen few, model Programs and coach" ....should an elephants throat be slit, the NCAA wouldn't find a blood trail :irked:.
October 15, 20178 yr Author Are we gonna pretend that Duke, Kansas or Kentucky would do the opposite? Well if they were so morally bankrupt to set up sham classes and majors, then yeah I think they'd act the same way. But to my knowledge no other school as, at this point, came up with a scheme like this to ensure their athletes make good enough grades to remain eligible.
October 16, 20178 yr Difference is one is Georgia and one is North Carolina Georgia should file a law suit against the NCAA tomorrow!
October 16, 20178 yr Well if they were so morally bankrupt to set up sham classes and majors, then yeah I think they'd act the same way. But to my knowledge no other school as, at this point, came up with a scheme like this to ensure their athletes make good enough grades to remain eligible. And they set the sham classes up for 18 years!!! I know UNC and their fans are happy with the ruling but deep down they’ve got to feel very ashamed and integrally dirty.
October 16, 20178 yr Author And they set the sham classes up for 18 years!!! I know UNC and their fans are happy with the ruling but deep down they’ve got to feel very ashamed and integrally dirty. Some do, most that I've ran into feel vindicated. Those that do I just show them this... It says in case you can't make it out... On the evening of December Rosa Parks decided that she was going to sit in the white people section on the bus in Montgomery, Alabama. During this time blacks had to give up there seats to whites when more whites got on the bus. Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat. Her and the bus driver began to talk and the conversation went like this. “Let me have those front seats” said the driver. She didn’t get up and told the driver that she was tired of giving her seat to white people. “I’m going to have you arrested,” said the driver. “You may do that,” Rosa Parks responded. Two white policemen came in and Rosa Parks asked them “why do you all push us around?” The police officer replied and said “I don’t know, but the law is the law and you’re under arrest.
October 16, 20178 yr Some do, most that I've ran into feel vindicated. Those that do I just show them this... It says in case you can't make it out... That’s an actual paper I assume?
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