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Pre-season Heisman Odds

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I think he's a UK fan?

I thinks he's both.

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I thinks he's both.

 

Probably... we let it all hang out and even Deuce. There is never any confusion about who we rep.

Lamar would be a WR at a "good" school is about the same analysis as the Teddy Bridgewater is a mobile QB heading into his draft.

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Lamar would be a WR at a "good" school is about the same analysis as the Teddy Bridgewater is a mobile QB heading into his draft.

See Torrance Gibson.

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Probably... we let it all hang out and even Deuce. There is never any confusion about who we rep.

No sense in hiding your fandom. Even if it leads others to question your judgment.

Awhhh….. reading this banter makes me soo excited that we’re this close to college football season!!

See Torrance Gibson.

 

What am I supposed to see? They're both "athletic"?

What am I supposed to see? They're both "athletic"?

 

You're wasting your time. He's said multiple times that Lamar was "horrible" in a three game stretch where we attributed to almost 900 yards and five touchdowns. We obviously have different ideas of what horrible means.

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What am I supposed to see? They're both "athletic"?
The discussion was about whether Lamar would have played QB at a bigger school I.e. Ohio State, Bama, Clemson, FSU, etc. I say no and I used Torrance Gibson as an example of an extremely athletic kid who played QB in HS and when he got to OSU they told him he's going to play receiver. I think their playing styles and athleticism are very similar. Obviously Lamar proved he can play QB at a high level in college, I just don't think he ever gets the chance if he's at a "bigger" school.
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You're wasting your time. He's said multiple times that Lamar was "horrible" in a three game stretch where we attributed to almost 900 yards and five touchdowns. We obviously have different ideas of what horrible means.

He threw for 250 yards in only one of those games, only went for 150 against LSU. His best game statistically of the 3 was against UK where he threw 3 picks and had a fumble. He threw for 3 total TD's and ran for 2. Considering he was the QB and the RB. Those numbers were "horrible"

The discussion was about whether Lamar would have played QB at a bigger school I.e. Ohio State, Bama, Clemson, FSU, etc. I say no and I used Torrance Gibson as an example of an extremely athletic kid who played QB in HS and when he got to OSU they told him he's going to play receiver. I think their playing styles and athleticism are very similar. Obviously Lamar proved he can play QB at a high level in college, I just don't think he ever gets the chance if he's at a "bigger" school.

 

That's absurd. From my understanding Mack Brown offered Manziel and RG3 to play different positions so never recruited them as QBs. This is completely different. In this hypothetical Lamar is at a big college and even though he has an absolute cannon (as raw as he was as a Freshman and less so as a Soph) and can avoid pressure like no one else, he would never get the chance to be a QB at a bigger school (OSU here). Last year he won the award for being the best player in college football as a QB. If we are to believe Urban is one of the best talent evaluators and one of the best coaches around (which I do) we would have to believe he wouldn't let the Heisman winner play QB. That literally makes zero sense.

 

Honestly it isn't fair to Gibson to be compared to Lamar. The only comparison that even comes close is Cam at Florida and he was behind one of the best ever college football players and he didn't even switch positions, probably because he was better than just about anyone else other than Mr. Tebow.

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That's absurd. From my understanding Mack Brown offered Manziel and RG3 to play different positions so never recruited them as QBs. This is completely different. In this hypothetical Lamar is at a big college and even though he has an absolute cannon (as raw as he was as a Freshman and less so as a Soph) and can avoid pressure like no one else, he would never get the chance to be a QB at a bigger school (OSU here). Last year he won the award for being the best player in college football as a QB. If we are to believe Urban is one of the best talent evaluators and one of the best coaches around (which I do) we would have to believe he wouldn't let the Heisman winner play QB. That literally makes zero sense.

 

Honestly it isn't fair to Gibson to be compared to Lamar. The only comparison that even comes close is Cam at Florida and he was behind one of the best ever college football players and he didn't even switch positions, probably because he was better than just about anyone else other than Mr. Tebow.

He wasn't the Heisman trophy winner when he got to Louisville. I'm saying Ohio State wouldn't have given him the chance to develop his talent at QB and would have wanted to see his athleticism on the field earlier at WR. When he got to OSU he wouldn't have been ahead of reigning Big 10 player of the year JT Barrett or national championship winning QB Cardale Jones. Nor was he as polished of a passer as Joe Burrow was when he arrived in the same class as Lamar. Ohio State simply wouldn't have had the opening for Lamar to play right away or even as a sophomore and his athleticism is too great to have him sit on the sidelines. He would have played WR.

Probably... we let it all hang out and even Deuce. There is never any confusion about who we rep.

 

No sense in hiding your fandom. Even if it leads others to question your judgment.

 

It's pretty simple. I grew up a die hard UK basketball fan and a die hard Notre Dame football fan. Those were my dad's favorite teams so they were mine too and still are. However I also graduated from UK and so as a student went to many football games too and obviously with it being where I graduated from their football team also became a favorite I root for. So no confusion, pretty simple.

The guy is listed at 20-1 but imo the best football player in the country going into the season is Saquon Barkley ....Penn State RB

Haters gonna hate... Fifth? :lol:

 

More important than any of that, he plays for Louisville.

 

He peaked way early, then Louisville fell flat on its face.

 

............Exactly !

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