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The firing of FBI Director James Comey - What is each side saying?

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I would probably go with "alleged links."

 

That's fine.

 

Let's say that there is proof that Flynn colluded with Russia to "fill in the blank" regarding the election.

 

Do you think it's probable that Donald Trump knew what Flynn was doing?

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That's fine.

 

Let's say that there is proof that Flynn colluded with Russia to "fill in the blank" regarding the election.

 

Do you think it's probable that Donald Trump knew what Flynn was doing?

 

Obviously we are deep into speculation here.

 

I am going to go with something less than probable.

 

If Flynn lied to Vice President Pence I don't have any reason to believe he was transparent with President Trump.

Which strikes me as way over the top at this point.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that in all likelihood the President isn't in a total vacuum, and that some out on the fringes will make those analogies.

Which strikes me as way over the top at this point.

 

Saturday Night Massacre seems somewhat analogous since President Trump said that he fired Comey to help end the "Russia thing."

 

They are not the exact same but I get the high-level comparison.

Obviously we are deep into speculation here.

 

I am going to go with something less than probable.

 

If Flynn lied to Vice President Pence I don't have any reason to believe he was transparent with President Trump.

 

So you can come up with a scenario in your mind where candidate Trump was oblivious?

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Saturday Night Massacre seems somewhat analogous since President Trump said that he fired Comey to help end the "Russia thing."

 

They are not the exact same but I get the high-level comparison.

 

Maybe President Trump's logic is removing Comey will help the investigation get completed sooner. And if anything it adds more fire to every investigator on case to get it right.

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So you can come up with a scenario in your mind where candidate Trump was oblivious?

 

I am saying it is obvious Flynn lied to Pence so lying to Trump too makes sense for someone criminally minded yet very smart like Flynn.

Maybe President Trump's logic is removing Comey will help the investigation get completed sooner. And if anything it adds more fire to every investigator on case to get it right.

 

 

Do you really believe if, I said if, the new director finds something on Trump he will take it and there won't be repercussions for the director from Trump?

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I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that in all likelihood the President isn't in a total vacuum, and that some out on the fringes will make those analogies.

 

I agree it is a fringe analogy at this point.

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Do you really believe if, I said if, the new director finds something on Trump he will take it and there won't be repercussions for the director from Trump?

 

I am not being difficult, I am not sure I understand the question?

Maybe President Trump's logic is removing Comey will help the investigation get completed sooner. .

 

You believe his desire is speed?

 

This is 100% transparent. Guy didn't buy in to being loyal. Firing came after a day of testimony that didn't go well for him. He needed another distraction.

 

He thought he'd have Ds all excited. He doesn't really get it. It backfired.

I am not being difficult, I am not sure I understand the question?

 

 

Let's say, hypothetical, the new director comes to Trump and his senior staff that they found that the election was tainted by the Russians it was indisputable with and that Trump knew about it and ignored it.. Do you think Trump will accept it and allow it to become public and take his consequences?

 

I will say the director will be told to keep it quiet or he'd get fired.

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You believe his desire is speed?

 

This is 100% transparent. Guy didn't buy in to being loyal. Firing came after a day of testimony that didn't go well for him. He needed another distraction.

 

He thought he'd have Ds all excited. He doesn't really get it. It backfired.

 

I believe President Trump had a lot of reasons for firing James Comey, a couple of them totally legitimate, and probably 4 or 5 that are suspect at best.

I believe President Trump had a lot of reasons for firing James Comey, a couple of them totally legitimate, and probably 4 or 5 that are suspect at best.

 

Yeah. The "suspect at best" are what we're debating.

 

He didn't get fired for "legitimate" reasons.

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Let's say, hypothetical, the new director comes to Trump and his senior staff that they found that the election was tainted by the Russians it was indisputable with and that Trump knew about it and ignored it.. Do you think Trump will accept it and allow it to become public and take his consequences?

 

I will say the director will be told to keep it quiet or he'd get fired.

 

I will say this, I had the pleasure of working with a handful of FBI Agents and they were all top notch. I nearly refuse to believe that men and women of that kind of character and skill would all participate in a cover up.

 

I also think the new Director (when he or she is named) has a duty, even if it is outside of her/his lane, to go public with that type of information if anyone tries to cover it up.

 

Additionally, if we find your hypothetical to be true, then the investigation should immediately be handed over to a special prosecutor.

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