The facts aren't entirely on your side though. None of the countries that have had citizens commit acts of terror against the US in the US are on the list of 7. I believe it has been since the 70s that someone on the list committed an act of terror against the US in the US.

That would be a great point if it were true. However, it isn't.

 

Here are a couple of examples of Somali nationals "randomly" slicing, hacking, killing, and running over American citizens on American soil:

 

Somali student behind car, knife attack at Ohio State University that injured 11

 

Cops kill man after machete attack at Ohio deli

Every terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 has been done by a US citizen or legal residents, not 1 by a visa holder or refugee. They are barking up the wrong tree. The terrorists are already here and always have been. Some born here, attended our schools and churches. @PP92, they don't want to deal with facts just be discriminatory. It's their MO.

 

Really upu are as partisan as they come and as naive as can be .

 

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/from-somalia-to-us-ohio-state-attackers-path-to-violence.amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon ohio state attacker-

Really upu are as partisan as they come and as naive as can be .

 

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/from-somalia-to-us-ohio-state-attackers-path-to-violence.amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon ohio state attacker-

 

Legal resident?

Really upu are as partisan as they come and as naive as can be .

 

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/from-somalia-to-us-ohio-state-attackers-path-to-violence.amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon ohio state attacker-

 

Not sure you know my partisanship. You really have no idea. I am naive to some things, yes. But not DJT.

Legal resident?

Did you read the article?

 

Mr. Artan arrived in the United States in 2014 as the child of a refugee. He had fled war-ravaged Somalia as a youth, finding refuge in Pakistan, where he lived with other refugees on a narrow Islamabad road known to locals as Somali Street.

That response came as Comey was asked to clarify an earlier statement in which he linked the root cause of the July 16 rampage by Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Kuwait, to the recent Islamic terrorist attack in San Bernardino.

Islamic Attacks on America

 

 

A clear and present danger. No other religion is at war for their religion.

That would be a great point if it were true. However, it isn't.

 

Here are a couple of examples of Somali nationals "randomly" slicing, hacking, killing, and running over American citizens on American soil:

 

Somali student behind car, knife attack at Ohio State University that injured 11

 

Cops kill man after machete attack at Ohio deli

 

And you've helped to prove my point because Somalia and United Arab Emirates aren't on the list. That's my only point in any of this. Terrorist attacks in America isn't happening from citizens on the list. Ban Egypt, ban Saudi Arabia, ban Lebanon, ban UAE.

 

That's my beef.

And you've helped to prove my point because Somalia and United Arab Emirates aren't on the list. That's my only point in any of this. Terrorist attacks in America isn't happening from citizens on the list. Ban Egypt, ban Saudi Arabia, ban Lebanon, ban UAE.

 

That's my beef.

 

Really, somalia.. Care to look again?

 

 

 

Yesterday (January 27), President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning immigration from seven countries, all of which are predominantly Muslim. The countries in question are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.1 day ago

And you've helped to prove my point because Somalia and United Arab Emirates aren't on the list. That's my only point in any of this. Terrorist attacks in America isn't happening from citizens on the list. Ban Egypt, ban Saudi Arabia, ban Lebanon, ban UAE.

 

That's my beef.

Not only are you wrong in asserting that no Americans have been killed by terrorists from any of the countries subject to Trump's executive order temporarily banning travel from certain countries, you are also wrong about the list of countries listed in the executive order.

 

Full text of Trump's executive order on 7-nation ban, refugee suspension

 

BTW, the perpetrator of the attacks in the examples that I provided were both Somali nationals. Neither of them were from the United Arab Emirates and I never claimed that they were.

 

Please read the article that I linked and note the inclusion of Somalia among the countries subject to the travel ban.

The Executive order signed is basically just ensuring the Law passed and signed back in 2015 is actually enforced. It calls for a 120 day review of the current laws to see basically what is working and what is not and where the holes are in the system. Biggest issue is that those coming from the listed countries can not verify their ID as record keeping and government administration in those countries is suspect at best. The countries in the ME that are not on the list are their because they have better records and government support than the others, but even their citizens wishing to travel to the US are going through extra level of vetting now while the entire program is being reviewed.

 

Here is a brief overview of what President Obama signed back in 2015...

 

[h=2]What is the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015? Why is it necessary to once again expand the amount of ESTA information being collected from VWP travelers?[/h]

 

 

DHS remains concerned about the risks posed by the situation in Syria and Iraq, where instability has attracted thousands of foreign fighters, including many from VWP countries. Such individuals could travel to the United States for operational purposes on their own or at the behest of violent extremist groups.

The U.S. Congress shares this concern, and on December 18, 2015, the President signed into law the Consolidated Appropriations Act 2016, which includes the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 (the Act). The Act, among other things, establishes new eligibility requirements for travel under the VWP. These new eligibility requirements do not bar travel to the United States. Instead, a traveler who does not meet the requirements must obtain a visa for travel to the United States, which generally includes an in-person interview at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate.

DHS has updated the ESTA application with additional questions to address the new eligibility requirements under the Act.

 

 

 

 

[h=2]What are the new eligibility requirements for VWP travel?[/h]

 

 

Under the Act, travelers in the following categories are no longer eligible to travel or be admitted to the United States under the VWP:

 

• Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, or countries listed under specified designation lists (currently including Iran and Sudan) at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).
  
• Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).
  

 

 

 

 

Reports say some of the Border Patrol agents have defied/are defying the TRO.

Wait a minute @Jumper_Dad. So Obama signed it, felt the need for it, never really enforced it for whatever reason. (probably political backlash) Trump enforced it with a few minor additions and the left is going nuts. Is this the jist of it?

A few R senators said they fear this will help terrorist orgs in recruiting.

Reports say some of the Border Patrol agents have defied/are defying the TRO.

 

Jail time is in order.