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Donald Trump on Proposed Muslim Ban: "You Know My Plans"

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Absolutely, and the facts are on my side. The only reason that we have not seen the same level of carnage from Muslim refugees that Europe has seen is Europe's closer proximity to the Middle East. It is much easier and economical for terror organizations to move people from radical Muslim host states to Europe than to the U.S. Crediting open border types like Obama for keeping us safer than Europeans is ludicrous.

 

The facts aren't entirely on your side though. None of the countries that have had citizens commit acts of terror against the US in the US are on the list of 7. I believe it has been since the 70s that someone on the list committed an act of terror against the US in the US.

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Absolutely, and the facts are on my side. The only reason that we have not seen the same level of carnage from Muslim refugees that Europe has seen is Europe's closer proximity to the Middle East. It is much easier and economical for terror organizations to move people from radical Muslim host states to Europe than to the U.S. Crediting open border types like Obama for keeping us safer than Europeans is ludicrous.

 

Hasn't Germany taken in around 1M Syrian refugees with very little vetting?

Hasn't Germany taken in around 1M Syrian refugees with very little vetting?

 

Not sure about the vetting but have taken a lot of them.

 

It's a mess there too, I read some bad stories on what the refugees are doing to that country and citizens.

The facts aren't entirely on your side though. None of the countries that have had citizens commit acts of terror against the US in the US are on the list of 7. I believe it has been since the 70s that someone on the list committed an act of terror against the US in the US.

 

Those have been identified through intelligence as havens for terroists from foreign countries because of weak, broken or inadiquate government or security.

Not sure about the vetting but have taken a lot of them.

 

It's a mess there too, I read some bad stories on what the refugees are doing to that country and citizens.

 

Rape and beatings are out of control.

I don't intentionally add to it. I'm just saying all this I'm for it stuff as long as its someone else doing the work. Put your money where your mouth is then I'll be a believer.

 

If I could I would. Maybe when I win the lottery and get in a better position I'll actually be able to do a lot more humanitarian work. For now I'll keep working these 12-16 hour shifts everyday to take care of my family.

If I could I would. Maybe when I win the lottery and get in a better position I'll actually be able to do a lot more humanitarian work. For now I'll keep working these 12-16 hour shifts everyday to take care of my family.

 

Same here brother. I need that lottery to open a huge rec center and tutoring center for kids.

Not sure about the vetting but have taken a lot of them.

 

It's a mess there too, I read some bad stories on what the refugees are doing to that country and citizens.

 

If they have taken in 1M then there isn't anyway they can properly vet that many.

Those have been identified through intelligence as havens for terroists from foreign countries because of weak, broken or inadiquate government or security.

 

So now we're back to believing what the intelligence community says?

 

Aren't 5 of those countries involved in a civil war of some sort?

So now we're back to believing what the intelligence community says?

 

Aren't 5 of those countries involved in a civil war of some sort?

 

That's why the bad guys are there and can hide. The intelligence community can do good work. You know Barry picked and chose intel and made them destroy records that pointed to a different outcome he didn't like. Agents went on record complaing about not being able to do their jobs and were being handcuffed for political purposes. I believe most of them have America's best interest at heart and are not politically driven. I don't recall ever railing against the intelligence agencies.

True, but does the vetting process for sure tell us which ones are good or evil? Does it tell us which one's are actually Christians or which one's are lying? I guess I just need to know a lot more about this new vetting process.

 

I found this from Time Magazine. I went to whitehouse.com/archives originally months ago but where it was Obama administration they have all been deleted. :lol2:

 

This article describes a lot of what I remember being involved. Fingerprinting, biometrics, extensive interviews, weekly meetings, extensive background report all taking 18-24 months. It says the US lets in around 1800 refugees from Syria yearly.

 

 

Syrian Refugees: Here'''s How the Screening Process Works | Time.com

 

 

I found this also but I haven't read it yet. I figured it could informative.

 

 

 

I Went Through America’s Extreme Vetting - POLITICO Magazine

That's why the bad guys are there and can hide. The intelligence community can do good work. You know Barry picked and chose intel and made them destroy records that pointed to a different outcome he didn't like. Agents went on record complaing about not being able to do their jobs and were being handcuffed for political purposes. I believe most of them have America's best interest at heart and are not politically driven. I don't recall ever railing against the intelligence agencies.

 

Trump has and did just that not too long ago.

 

Agents went on record complaining about Obama but you don't think it was for political purposes?

Cemeteries are full of the victims of attacks on American soil by people who were poorly vetted or not vetted at all? Are you being serious?

 

 

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa798_2.pdf

 

Every terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 has been done by a US citizen or legal residents, not 1 by a visa holder or refugee. They are barking up the wrong tree. The terrorists are already here and always have been. Some born here, attended our schools and churches. @PP92, they don't want to deal with facts just be discriminatory. It's their MO.

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I found this from Time Magazine. I went to whitehouse.com/archives originally months ago but where it was Obama administration they have all been deleted. :lol2:

 

This article describes a lot of what I remember being involved. Fingerprinting, biometrics, extensive interviews, weekly meetings, extensive background report all taking 18-24 months. It says the US lets in around 1800 refugees from Syria yearly.

 

 

Syrian Refugees: Here'''s How the Screening Process Works | Time.com

 

 

I found this also but I haven't read it yet. I figured it could informative.

 

 

 

I Went Through America’s Extreme Vetting - POLITICO Magazine

 

Thanks, PP92. I appreciate the info, I will read through it. :thumb:

State Dept source said they normally have a couple of weeks to review plans like this. They had less than one day this time.

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