June 20, 201610 yr Go do a twitter search for kennethgutman Help me out...is it the fact the has a protected followership ?
June 20, 201610 yr Help me out...is it the fact the has a protected followership ? There are a lot of people hammering him for suspending the kid.
June 20, 201610 yr There are a lot of people hammering him for suspending the kid. Gotcha, so you Google'd his Twitter not following him. I bet he's rethinking his position...
June 20, 201610 yr I think kids should be held accountable for their social media accounts. I don't know what other action than Suspension was available to the Superintendent but I stand by him. Also think the kid and his parents could have handled this differently. I agree that the kid and parents could have handled it differently. I am not saying the kid was in the right for tweeting what he did, but I again ask, how is this under the jurisdiction of the superintendent to give in-school punishment for something done out of school? I asked in my original post what would be the result if he said the same thing to the superintendent if they happened to bump into each other at the mall? What if he didn't even curse at him, but rather said something he didn't like? (I've seen a post on here before about a kid saying they hated their school monitor on Twitter and getting in a world of trouble - that school system paid as well) Would it change your tune any if the tweet was sent from inside the school, during school hours? This would be the exception to my feeling on the matter. If he was at school, then he's fair game. If he was on a field trip, or another school related function, then he's fair game.
June 20, 201610 yr I don't find it funny. Any of my sons would have been in trouble from me. Who knows, maybe this will stop the kid from doing something like this and losing his job in the future. Oh I definitely wouldn't want my kid doing it. But I think it's funny if it's someone else's.
June 20, 201610 yr Here is what the super's response should have been. "I will be there 5:30 in the morning, two shovels in hand. One for me, one for "toi". Your presence is MANDATORY"! He doesn't show up, THEN hold his feet to the fire. Give him the choice.
June 20, 201610 yr Here is what the super's response should have been. "I will be there 5:30 in the morning, two shovels in hand. One for me, one for "toi". Your presence is MANDATORY"! He doesn't show up, THEN hold his feet to the fire. Give him the choice. I would be good with this as a means of the kid digging himself out of a hole.... The big HOWEVER here is that the kid was right, even though it wasn't popular with the administration. If you can't provide a safe environment for kids to come to school, isn't that a leadership issue ? Kid just pointed out what this guy's employees probably don't want to say...
June 20, 201610 yr I would be good with this as a means of the kid digging himself out of a hole.... The big HOWEVER here is that the kid was right, even though it wasn't popular with the administration. If you can't provide a safe environment for kids to come to school, isn't that a leadership issue ? Kid just pointed out what this guy's employees probably don't want to say... Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, I don't know the exact situation/circumstances. But beyond that, lets add 10 years to this, the kid now is in a work environment, exact same situation happens and he tweets this to his boss. That's probably not going to be a very smart thing to do...just like this wasn't very smart either, and it would quite possibly have some negative consequences on his employment. And like it was said above, I really didn't find it all that funny, but rather very disrespectful to an adult/elder and authority figure. And like some, I'm not too sure what the discipline should be, or even if it's technically an act the super can discipline for.
June 20, 201610 yr Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, I don't know the exact situation/circumstances. But beyond that, lets add 10 years to this, the kid now is in a work environment, exact same situation happens and he tweets this to his boss. That's probably not going to be a very smart thing to do...just like this wasn't very smart either, and it would quite possibly have some negative consequences on his employment. And like it was said above, I really didn't find it all that funny, but rather very disrespectful to an adult/elder and authority figure. And like some, I'm not too sure what the discipline should be, or even if it's technically an act the super can discipline for. I don't disagree...if it's my kid, different story, but I handle it at home....not the school. As for negative consequences for employment, I've been doing lots of research lately and I think that what we are going to find is that social media is changing the way we look at work and work issues. I'm not saying it's good either, just changing. Chances are he would learn this lesson much earlier in a job that wasn't a career, or wouldn't learn it at all....either way, it works itself out. Superintendent clearly is not equipped to be in the digital world....he got played hard with the tweets at him and he probably learned much more of a lesson than the kid.
June 20, 201610 yr I agree that the kid and parents could have handled it differently. I am not saying the kid was in the right for tweeting what he did, but I again ask, how is this under the jurisdiction of the superintendent to give in-school punishment for something done out of school? I asked in my original post what would be the result if he said the same thing to the superintendent if they happened to bump into each other at the mall? What if he didn't even curse at him, but rather said something he didn't like? (I've seen a post on here before about a kid saying they hated their school monitor on Twitter and getting in a world of trouble - that school system paid as well) This would be the exception to my feeling on the matter. If he was at school, then he's fair game. If he was on a field trip, or another school related function, then he's fair game. Do you think most people would still have their job if they did that to their boss?
June 20, 201610 yr Do you think most people would still have their job if they did that to their boss? Your boss may begin looking for ways to fire you, but you can bet your rear they'd better come with something stronger than a tweet that could easily be construed as a joke.
June 20, 201610 yr Your boss may begin looking for ways to fire you, but you can bet your rear they'd better come with something stronger than a tweet that could easily be construed as a joke. Not in KY. This would easily be considered insubordination which falls under misconduct. No unemployment benefits. Unless other factors are present.
June 20, 201610 yr Not in KY. This would easily be considered insubordination which falls under misconduct. No unemployment benefits. Unless other factors are present. Well I admit on this particular part, I will have to defer to you. I would still view it as extremely weak. As I view this.
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