Why? It's none of our business.

 

Transparency?

Happens all the time. Almost every transfer is due to the bona fide move. Into the district or not is irrelevant. She'll be eligible as long as that paper says she moved. Lots of crazy obsessed people

In reading the section Pete Mitchell posted yesterday there is no requirement that the student move into the school district he/she is transferring to. That is interesting and sure seems to be a big loophole unless it is addressed elsewhere in the regulations. It would be interesting to find out if this has ever occurred before.

Transparency?

 

I have no problem with the KHSAA coming out to say whether a transfer was accepted or denied but to put the reasons, I think, would be an invasion of privacy for those who are transferring. We don't need to know details. It's none of "your" business why "I" want to transfer as long as the KHSAA gives their blessing.

Happens all the time. Almost every transfer is due to the bona fide move. Into the district or not is irrelevant. She'll be eligible as long as that paper says she moved. Lots of crazy obsessed people

 

Okay. I find that interesting, and to my interpretation at least inconsistent with the "spirit of the rule", although admittedly not inconsistent with the rule as stated. The KHSAA has retained a lot of discretion, over and above the bylaws as stated, to allow or deny eligibility, so my only remaining question is has such a "bona fide move" not to the new district ever been the subject of a challenge and/or hearing, because I am not aware of any. And, for what it's worth, I've never personally heard of it happening, so maybe my little part of the world is in a vacuum from where it happens "all the time".

First, that's not Highlands stance at all. That's me reading the bylaws and asking questions as to how to interpret the rule.

 

Second, she is enrolled at HHS. That is the trigger that allows her to participate with them in the summer. Enrollment is the key here! She hasnt played any official contest. KHSSA will make a final ruling on eligibility before she is allowed to play in any official contest. If she is ruled ineligible, she will not be allowed to participate any longer. It's really not that hard.

 

As for the "move" rule. Let's say you live in Lexington and you got transferd with your job to NKy. You pick up your family and move. Your daughter played a year of high school sports as a high schooler in Lexington. When she has a bonafide move, she can become immediately eligible. Now let's say they move to Ft Thomas and they hate the school system for some reason. They don't have to send their kid to Highlands to be eligible. They could send her to NCC, ND, Brossart or Campbell co (or any other school that accepts tuition students). My point, in this situation, she has her eligibility back because of the move. She is not forced to go to the school where she moved. Which now leaves loopholes. (And if you think HHS had ANYTHING to do with any of this you're crazy!) But with this loophole, technically you could live in Dayton in an apartment and have gone to the high school and played varsity sports. Now, you could technically move one street over to Bellevue and appeal to KHSAA to get your eligibility back and go to any school you want and play right away.

 

There are kids that go back and forth between Newport and Holmes all the time. No one really says anything.

 

Look, I'm not saying whether this is right wrong or indifferent. I'm trying to answer some of your questions here. And I certainly don't speak for HHS. But I also feel that if a kid wants to play somewhere because she's not comfortable where she is, she should be able to do so. Transfers happen all over the place everyday! If they follow the proper channels and weren't enticed by the program they are transferring to, then there is no issue. Just about any school on here that is talking about this has had one or more transfers in more recent history than HHS! My daughter just graduated, played 6 years in the varsity program and never once played with a "new" kid that was an impact Bball player.

 

The facts, she is enrolled at HHS. She went through the proper channels to do so. The eligibility process is underway. The ONLY thing that matters when talking about summer activities is that she is enrolled in the school. Until school starts, their is really no eligibility question because their are no official contests! KHSAA will make a ruling soon and I know so far everything is good news.

For what it's worth my understanding was that she formerly lived in Grant County, then moved to Kenton County to be eligible as a transfer at Notre Dame, and it is from that address that her "bona fide move" is occurring, if that even matters.

 

Isn't there anyone with a knowledge base of KHSAA decisions on transfers that could answer if this interpretation has ever been tested?

 

She did not move to Kenton county to go to ND. She moved, but it wasn't to Kenton co.

If KHSAA has not ruled on the transfer, and, she is participating in summer practices and games (Considering I saw her on the court in an HHS uniform at SK yesterday, this is affirmative), this is a moot point. RCC9 and HHS positions are one and the same.

 

Highlands only position until they hear from KHSAA is that the lady is enrolled at HHS. Therefore allowed to participate in summer workouts with the team. Official ruling to play in games comes from the KHSAA.

Long as not contested by schools and kid changes address KHSAA approves. Will never fight.

Does a kid have to be enrolled or does she need to be declared eligible to be allowed to play summer ball? It's not like they are keeping records or qualifying for district seeding during the off season.

Would she be allowed to play until the ruling is made?

 

BINGO! We have a winner! I knew you were smart!

The transfer rule doesn't mention "districts" for a reason. They are creations of the school systems themselves and have nothing to do with the KHSAA. Private schools don't have "districts". Every school in the KHSAA plays by the same KHSAA rules which don't mention districts. Public schools can and do decide to impose extra rules and then some fans can and do decide to talk about unfair advantages and so forth. Looks like this girls parents know exactly what the book says.

Okay. I find that interesting, and to my interpretation at least inconsistent with the "spirit of the rule", although admittedly not inconsistent with the rule as stated. The KHSAA has retained a lot of discretion, over and above the bylaws as stated, to allow or deny eligibility, so my only remaining question is has such a "bona fide move" not to the new district ever been the subject of a challenge and/or hearing, because I am not aware of any. And, for what it's worth, I've never personally heard of it happening, so maybe my little part of the world is in a vacuum from where it happens "all the time".

 

I don't know around the state, but it happens all the time between Newport and Holmes. And I mean all the time. It's happening right now! And I'm sure it happens all over the place. The rule is there for good reason, like the example I gave of a family having to pick up and move. But the rule is used all the time for transferring. The reason it's not used more is beacuse everyone assumes that you have to go to the district you transferred in to. That's not the case at all though.

The transfer rule doesn't mention "districts" for a reason. They are creations of the school systems themselves and have nothing to do with the KHSAA. Private schools don't have "districts". Every school in the KHSAA plays by the same KHSAA rules which don't mention districts. Public schools can and do decide to impose extra rules and then some fans can and do decide to talk about unfair advantages and so forth. Looks like this girls parents know exactly what the book says.

 

This!

I think this is an interesting and fair discussion about the concept of "bonafide change." I didn't take it as questioning Highlands' role in anything. The question posed is simple.

 

Can you live on one street in Edgewood(for example) and then move a few streets away (still in Edgewood) and get the one-year sit rule waived when transferring schools?

 

I get RCC's argument that the Holmes/HC/Newport situation shows that it's allowed but I don't think it's that simple. I think "spirit of the rule" comes into play. We saw that with the Mitchell case and a subsequent change to their wording. In that case the Mitchells still owned their home in Florence and rented in Ft Thomas. By the literal wording of the rule that would seem to be a change of address. KHSAA didn't think so. My guess is that they wouldn't think my Edgewood example or this girl's case would meet the intent either.

 

Good debate.

Why? It's none of our business.

 

Agreed.