June 8, 201610 yr It is inconceivable to me that a judge would think, 6 months in county is an appropriate penalty for this. I hope his is an elected office. That way the people get an opportunity to oust him.
June 8, 201610 yr You will do and say a lot of things to try and keep your kid from going to the penitentiary....I'm not saying what he said was well versed, or that I necessarily agree, but I certainly understand. If you have never been in that situation it is easy to judge a parent's statements / actions. And I think I understand what the father was trying to say. I think he meant that his sons life will be forever changed by an act that represents such a small part of his life. However, what he fails to recognize or mention is that his sons act will also forever affect his victim, and no matter how you look at it, was just a heinous, awful act. His victim has to forever live with what he did to her..it's only fair that he have to live with some lifelong consequences as well. I get that he wants to help his kid...but there is no real way to defend what his kid did.
June 8, 201610 yr Some fallout from this: Apparently a member of a Dayton band called Good English is a childhood friend of the accused, and sent a letter of support for him to the presiding judge. That letter has now gone net-wide, resulting in much negative feedback for the band as well as them being booted off the bill at a rock festival in Brooklyn this week. http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/brock-turners-friend-pens-letter-of-support.html UPDATED: Rock trio pulled from festival lineup for drummer’s support of Stanford rapist * Newswire * The A.V. Club
June 8, 201610 yr And I think I understand what the father was trying to say. I think he meant that his sons life will be forever changed by an act that represents such a small part of his life. However, what he fails to recognize or mention is that his sons act will also forever affect his victim, and no matter how you look at it, was just a heinous, awful act. His victim has to forever live with what he did to her..it's only fair that he have to live with some lifelong consequences as well. I get that he wants to help his kid...but there is no real way to defend what his kid did. I don't disagree, I just, as a father, understand...
June 8, 201610 yr I don't disagree, I just, as a father, understand... I do too. It's much easier to take a hard stand and talk what's right and what's wrong when it's someone else's kid.
June 8, 201610 yr I read this yesterday. It's the statement the victim gave during sentencing. It's not a pleasant read, but it's powerful stuff. Here's The Powerful Letter The Stanford Victim Read To Her Attacker - BuzzFeed News I hadn't read that yet. I'm not going to lie, I'd sort of been avoiding it until today. My girlfriend sent me a link to it a few days ago and I've just been sitting on it. I knew it would make me upset and angry. Even so, I wasn't prepared for the details. But it was time to read it and so I did. Everyone should read this. She touches briefly on the only part of this I feel I can speak to personally, which is the argument made by him and his representatives that this is really part of a larger discussion about the drinking culture on college campuses. Nonsense. Is heavy binge drinking a problem on college campuses in which most students are learning their bodies' and minds' reactions to alcohol for the first time and the consequences of heavy drinking? Yeah it's a problem. But I've been drunk out of my mind so many times that I couldn't even count them. By my last year of college, I spent more nights drinking than not drinking. It wasn't healthy and I'd probably do things at least a little differently if I could go back, but it's fair to say I did a lot of drinking. There were a lot of us in that boat. So here is this massive throng of affable drunks wandering around the University of Dayton -- coincidentally just a stone's throw from where this kid grew up in Oakwood (and boy do I have a lot to say about Oakwood) -- and what's interesting is that the overwhelming majority of them would never even CONSIDER doing something like this. What he did comes from somewhere else. What this guy did comes from somewhere deep and ingrained. Alcohol doesn't make you do or think things you otherwise wouldn't have in your mind. It unlocks those things within you. It lowers the inhibitions to consider the things in your mind that are already there. This came from somewhere else. Somewhere dark. Somewhere perhaps in the recesses of his mind that says "I can get what I want and the situation doesn't matter." Wherever THAT thought came from... that's what I want to find, root out, and destroy. It's a thought planted in his mind by a warped culture, I believe, an environment that allowed it to fester and reinforcement from examples he'd encountered throughout his life. Just a thought on my part, as I try to figure out where this impulse comes from. It's profoundly evil in a way that I simply don't understand. Where does it come from? It's something I thought about while reading the thread last week about the violence in Chicago and the NY Times top story last week about all the shootings in Chicago over Memorial Day. There are guns everywhere. There are cities with terrible neighborhoods and poor ghettos all over America. Something else is happening in Chicago. Where does it come from there? It's a big question. I guess it's a question we've been trying to answer for ages upon ages. But it makes me sad. And angry. And finding that answer is the only way to start to eat away at this wickedness. Edited June 8, 201610 yr by Getslow
June 9, 201610 yr Questions for the legal eagles on here. Can the victim sue the boy? Is there any recourse for the prosecution team or is the judge's ruling the end of it?
June 9, 201610 yr Author Questions for the legal eagles on here. Can the victim sue the boy? Is there any recourse for the prosecution team or is the judge's ruling the end of it? I would assume she can file a civil suit against him. There is no recourse for the sentence though. The judge cannot go back and change it because of the uproar it's caused. BTW - he started serving his sentence on June 2; he gets out on Sept. 2. SMDH
June 9, 201610 yr You watch, someone's going to seek him out and give him a beat down. Just because he deserves it.
June 10, 201610 yr Some fallout from this: Apparently a member of a Dayton band called Good English is a childhood friend of the accused, and sent a letter of support for him to the presiding judge. That letter has now gone net-wide, resulting in much negative feedback for the band as well as them being booted off the bill at a rock festival in Brooklyn this week. http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/brock-turners-friend-pens-letter-of-support.html UPDATED: Rock trio pulled from festival lineup for drummer’s support of Stanford rapist * Newswire * The A.V. Club They weren't ever going to be as good as Bad English.
June 10, 201610 yr They weren't ever going to be as good as Bad English. I'll buy that for a nickel. Took me a minute there, though. :thumb:
June 10, 201610 yr This kid is hiding behind alcohol. Many of us have been stupid drunk before and never once considered taking the actions he did. Alcohol simply brought out what he had in him.
June 10, 201610 yr More backlash. Potential jurors have refused to sit for a trial that Persky is presiding over. LINK
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