I hate mandatory sentence on any crime.

 

Agreed. This judge was out of his mind with the degree to which he commuted this sentence, but taking that discretion away from judges bothers me on the whole. I just hope judges use it with great discretion and after serious thought.

 

Not every judge is capable of that.

Yes I believe in law and order. I have researched mandatory sentencing and I believe that violent crimes deserve mandatory prison time.

 

I don't believe in mandatory sentencing for non-violent crimes such as drug offenses. I will research the 3 strikes laws.

 

Just out of curiosity, if you don't believe in law and order what's the alternative?

 

I do believe law and order is necessary in a functioning society. But there's a difference between "law and order" and "LAW AND ORDER," and I feel like you're more in the latter camp, based on what I've read of your posts.

I do believe law and order is necessary in a functioning society. But there's a difference between "law and order" and "LAW AND ORDER," and I feel like you're more in the latter camp, based on what I've read of your posts.

 

You're right I believe in rules and consequences. The judge in this case did a terrible injustice to the victim and the entitled rapist.

You're right I believe in rules and consequences. The judge in this case did a terrible injustice to the victim and the entitled rapist.

 

I don't disagree with either point. I'm still wanting to know how you feel about 3 strikes laws within your philosophy of how law and order should work.

I don't disagree with either point. I'm still wanting to know how you feel about 3 strikes laws within your philosophy of how law and order should work.

 

Sorry, I've been a little busy lately and have not had a chance to research 3 strike laws and their effectiveness. I can say without a doubt in my mind that a person who is found guilty of 3 violent felonies should be removed from society!

Sorry, I've been a little busy lately and have not had a chance to research 3 strike laws and their effectiveness. I can say without a doubt in my mind that a person who is found guilty of 3 violent felonies should be removed from society!

 

Since you won't play along, 3 strikes laws, while intended initially for violent felons, regularly caught up people for minor felonies (drugs usually) and upon the third time were give 20-to-life sentences. They were heavily lobbied for by the prison industry as it led to a massive uptick in incarceration rates — i.e., more customers for CCA and their ilk.

Since you won't play along, 3 strikes laws, while intended initially for violent felons, regularly caught up people for minor felonies (drugs usually) and upon the third time were give 20-to-life sentences. They were heavily lobbied for by the prison industry as it led to a massive uptick in incarceration rates — i.e., more customers for CCA and their ilk.

 

Convictions for violent crimes is an issue for me. They should be dealt with severely and consistently. Drug offenses should be dealt with on a different level.

Currently these states have 3 Stike laws on the books...Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin.

Since you won't play along, 3 strikes laws, while intended initially for violent felons, regularly caught up people for minor felonies (drugs usually) and upon the third time were give 20-to-life sentences. They were heavily lobbied for by the prison industry as it led to a massive uptick in incarceration rates — i.e., more customers for CCA and their ilk.

 

What percent or how many of total prison population is held in private prisons?

Since you won't play along, 3 strikes laws, while intended initially for violent felons, regularly caught up people for minor felonies (drugs usually) and upon the third time were give 20-to-life sentences. They were heavily lobbied for by the prison industry as it led to a massive uptick in incarceration rates — i.e., more customers for CCA and their ilk.

 

Are you in favor of three strikes if it were limited to violent offenders?

What percent or how many of total prison population is held in private prisons?

 

I don't know, but even if it's a private prison or government-run, the prison industry still gets a cut. Who do you think manufactures all the stuff in a prison?

Are you in favor of three strikes if it were limited to violent offenders?

 

I have reservations about it. Cases should be weighed on their own merit, at least primarily.

I don't know, but even if it's a private prison or government-run, the prison industry still gets a cut. Who do you think manufactures all the stuff in a prison?

 

Prison Industry? So now instead of blaming private prisons, which house an insignificant number of the total of incarcerated individuals in this country, we should blame the guy that sells produce to the local prison too? Or Johnson and Johnson that sells them bandaids or Proctor and Gamble that sells them cleaning supplies?

 

There are some issues with 3 Strikes laws in some states, I agree. But there are a relatively small number of people committing the vast majority of crime in this country. At some point enough is enough with these people, if they can't live by the rules of society maybe prison is the best place for them.

Prison Industry? So now instead of blaming private prisons, which house an insignificant number of the total of incarcerated individuals in this country, we should blame the guy that sells produce to the local prison too? Or Johnson and Johnson that sells them bandaids or Proctor and Gamble that sells them cleaning supplies?

 

There are some issues with 3 Strikes laws in some states, I agree. But there are a relatively small number of people committing the vast majority of crime in this country. At some point enough is enough with these people, if they can't live by the rules of society maybe prison is the best place for them.

 

Last I saw it was > 15% in federal prisons. Doesn't seem insignificant to me.

Last I saw it was > 15% in federal prisons. Doesn't seem insignificant to me.

 

I was looking total incarceration not just federal.

 

Many many more prisoners held in state and local jails and prisons. Overall I think the private prison population is under 5%...or it was when I looked at it a few years ago.