I've been saying this for years...Football actually has a few teams that don't make the playoffs, while other sports allow every team into the playoffs.

 

Man, we still need to meet and have that Ice Cold Coca Cola so I can set you strai...I mean...discuss this stance in detail. LOL!

I know that some districts allow students to attend the school of their choice within a district and some districts have agreements with neighboring districts to allow students that are closer to one school or the other to attend that school, but are their public schools that let random students from other counties / districts come to their school? (legit asking)

Yes

More Stats: Only two public school teams have beaten an independent or a private in the state championship game since 2010. Belfry and Collins. Once each. Just so you can't say I'm manipulating the stats, other teams beat privates / independents on the way there but not many (Male, Boyle, Graves, maybe one or two others)

 

Crittenden County, Owen County, Lloyd Memorial, Leslie County, Caldwell County, Prestonburg, Ballard Memorial, Green County, Carroll County, Shelby Valley, Butler County, Fort Knox, Wayne County, Central, South Warren, Bell County, Bourbon County, LaRue County, Garrard County, Monroe County, Fort Campbell, North Oldham, Scott, West Jessamine, Johnson Central, Pulaski County, and Christian County would beg to differ.

 

All schools that have beaten privates/independents in the playoffs since 2010 in addiotion to the ones you already mentioned.

 

Public schools have won 57 games against private/independent schools in the playoffs since 2010.

I was looking at in state championship game or late in playoffs.

I was looking at in state championship game or late in playoffs.

 

So, excluding more data that doesn't support your point?

Privates / Independents don't want to be separate because it's better for them if they are in with people that largely can't compete with them. Publics want to be separate because it's best for them to be playing against teams that, for the most part, abide within the same restrictions they do. I'm sure if I coached / played at a private / independent I wouldn't want to be separate either; in the short term it makes it harder to win, and in the long term, it likely decreases the appeal of playing at these schools.

If you can honestly look the stat that privates and independents have won 2/3 of all championships since 2010 and not think these schools are at an obvious advantage, I think it's likely that your allegiance to Trinity is blinding you to the truth. Privates and independents should want to play schools that have their built in advantages and not feast on county schools that in the vast majority of cases have almost no chance to beat them, but clearly they do not.

I'm pretty sure there are no privates or independents in 4A currently (could be an independent I'm not aware of)

 

In 3a during that time there were a few independents but no privates. Independents were Tilghman and Etown.

Etown during the time period was finally stopped from taking kids from the county schools (amazing that they weren't as good once they had to play with kids from their district).

Tilghman made multiple state semifinals in that time.

The point stands - privates and independents can do things publics can't - attract talent from outside their district boundaries. When they do this (not all do), they are difficult (mostly impossible) to beat for most (not all - Male / Central / Belfry) public schools.

Isn't Ashland an independent?

Privates / Independents don't want to be separate because it's better for them if they are in with people that largely can't compete with them. Publics want to be separate because it's best for them to be playing against teams that' date=' for the most part, abide within the same restrictions they do. I'm sure if I coached / played at a private / independent I wouldn't want to be separate either; in the short term it makes it harder to win, and in the long term, it likely decreases the appeal of playing at these schools.[/quote']

 

No, I don't want the split because teams like Male, Scott County, and Manual are a lot more likely to be competitive than LCA, HC, or Brossart.

 

It is grotesquely unfair to make a small school who never has won anything go up against a school many many many times their size just because they happen to be private as well.

I've never proposed that.

 

X/T/BG/HIGHLANDS/Lex Cath / Cov Cath/ Owensboro should be grouped together.

 

6 team playoff (last place doesn't make it). Top two get a first round bye. Win 3 games to be the champ. Easy.

If you can honestly look the stat that privates and independents have won 2/3 of all championships since 2010 and not think these schools are at an obvious advantage' date=' I think it's likely that your allegiance to Trinity is blinding you to the truth. Privates and independents should want to play schools that have their built in advantages and not feast on county schools that in the vast majority of cases have almost no chance to beat them, but clearly they do not.[/quote']

 

 

Schools of similar size are better suited to play each other. All schools operate under the same KHSAA restrictions. If a county school doesn't want to open its borders then that is their own problem. The fact of the matter is that placing restrictions on yourself and expecting others to do the same is absurd. If a county school wants to they can allow students from other districts if they have the space.

 

The private schools had to build up their student body and make people want to attend them over the years. Some haven't made it. Holy Rosary and Flaget are but memories now, Bishop David and Angela Merici had to merge and even their gestalt isn't doing as well as the other schools in town. So the advantages you speak of are the fact that we don't have the luxury of state funding and we don't artificially constrain our enrollment policies outside of tuition.

 

Sometimes competing for students is a good thing. If you open the borders and let the money follow a student to any public school then you get a system where there is a reason to improve.

I've never proposed that.

 

X/T/BG/HIGHLANDS/Lex Cath / Cov Cath/ Owensboro should be grouped together.

 

Yeah 7 schools in a class, great idea. Hope you enjoy Male destroying everyone going forward. Then you can throw open enrollment districts in that class too.

I've never proposed that.

 

X/T/BG/HIGHLANDS/Lex Cath / Cov Cath/ Owensboro should be grouped together.

 

What advantage does an independent school have?

Ability to allow non district students to attend without having to pay super high tuition (5k @ highlands as opposed to 13k at Trinity). Independents really have it better than privates. If there were a 6a independent school in a metropolitan area, I suspect they would do very well (in some ways Male acts as an independent)

No when schools compete, what you get is a zero sum game in which some schools are the winners and some the losers (only speaking of academics), as opposed to a system in which all schools are good because the people who live in their districts are invested in their success.