I just lost 30 minutes off my life reading this. The whole public/private/independent thing just makes me want to roll my eyes.

A lot of people don't want to understand. Publics have built in systemic advantages that they can choose to use or not. Privates have built in family support and achievement mentality advantages that almost all understand and utilize. All of the advantages that both sides possess fall INSIDE the broad allowances of the SAME rule book.

From the Finals Blowout Thread...as not to hijack that thread.

 

No. I believe that there should be 3, size based classes of privates / independents.

 

And 3 classes of public schools.

 

So now you want 6 classes? Which is what we currently have...so your entire thing was a veiled attack against "Independents" which you perceive to have some magical advantage over county schools?

 

There are a handful of Public schools that aren't a part County Wide systems that have traditionally been successful in football, however the vast majority perform no better or worse than the average county football program.

Veiled attack? Seriously - this is just fun. Nobody at KHSAA cares what we think. I'm just playing around.

 

It's not magical. They can and do let out of district students in at low tuition. All you have to do is look at who dominates and it's clear that privates and independents have advantages over publics. You seem to think I have something against privates / independents, but I don't. There is nothing wrong with what they do. It's just different. Because it's different, they should compete for championships with each other.

Veiled attack? Seriously - this is just fun. Nobody at KHSAA cares what we think. I'm just playing around.

 

It's not magical. They can and do let out of district students in at low tuition. All you have to do is look at who dominates and it's clear that privates and independents have advantages over publics. You seem to think I have something against privates / independents, but I don't. There is nothing wrong with what they do. It's just different. Because it's different, they should compete for championships with each other.

 

It's only different because county schools refuse to allow students to attend anywhere they wish.

I get what you're saying, but they don't allow that for a variety of pretty good reasons, and they're not likely to start. So why not accept reality and let people compete against schools that are the most like them? Who loses?

Veiled attack? Seriously - this is just fun. Nobody at KHSAA cares what we think. I'm just playing around.

 

It's not magical. They can and do let out of district students in at low tuition. All you have to do is look at who dominates and it's clear that privates and independents have advantages over publics. You seem to think I have something against privates / independents, but I don't. There is nothing wrong with what they do. It's just different. Because it's different, they should compete for championships with each other.

First you do realize that "Independent School Systems" are Public Schools also...with the same funding and budget issues that County Schools have, right?

 

As for the Bolded above..."County" schools also can and do, do this. County schools can accept students from the City School districts with no issues, but if a county student wants to go to the City school either the county school has to release their SEEK (State Funding) for that student or the Student has to pay it out of their own pocket. However since all Independent Districts fall inside of the boundaries of a County District, if those students chose to go to the county school their SEEK money follows them. That is a decided advantage for the County School.

 

No one has to pay tuition to attend a County School...that would seem to be an advantage for those that have competitive teams, as they can draw players from across the county and city.

Again, reality - the numbers clearly show privates and independents winning at a hugely disproportionate rate compared to normal public schools. They should compete with people who are like them. I'm not really sure there is much else to say.

I get what you're saying, but they don't allow that for a variety of pretty good reasons, and they're not likely to start. So why not accept reality and let people compete against schools that are the most like them? Who loses?

 

Can you clarify some of those reasons? Frankly stifling choice and individualism is antithetical to our way of life.

Again, reality - the numbers clearly show privates and independents winning at a hugely disproportionate rate compared to normal public schools. They should compete with people who are like them. I'm not really sure there is much else to say.

 

So if county schools were winning it would be fair?

It's only different because county schools refuse to allow students to attend anywhere they wish.

 

There has been a big uproar over this down here. Pulaski County Schools has had a contract with Somerset Independent Schools that allowed X number of students to attend Somerset Schools, once that number was reached students were put on a waiting list. It was around 200 students K-12 total, each year.

 

Over the last year the County has decided to no longer allow this and will keep all state funding assigned to those students in their district, regardless of where they attend school. Which means any students going forward (current ones are grandfathered) that choose to attend Somerset Schools will have to reimburse the Somerset schools for all state funding (SEEK and other funds) that the county will no longer release to follow them. Not a lot of people willing to pay that when their the kids can go to school for free in the county schools.

 

In the contract Pulaski Schools did however state they would be willing to freely accept any number of Somerset Independent Students that wished to go to the County Schools, with no limits.

In the contract Pulaski Schools did however state they would be willing to freely accept any number of Somerset Independent Students that wished to go to the County Schools, with no limits.

 

I am sure they will... How kind of them.

A lot of people don't want to understand. Publics have built in systemic advantages that they can choose to use or not. Privates have built in family support and achievement mentality advantages that almost all understand and utilize. All of the advantages that both sides possess fall INSIDE the broad allowances of the SAME rule book.

 

So, the reason that private schools win at a greater clip is because they have better parents?

There has been a big uproar over this down here. Pulaski County Schools has had a contract with Somerset Independent Schools that allowed X number of students to attend Somerset Schools, once that number was reached students were put on a waiting list. It was around 200 students K-12 total, each year.

 

Over the last year the County has decided to no longer allow this and will keep all state funding assigned to those students in their district, regardless of where they attend school. Which means any students going forward (current ones are grandfathered) that choose to attend Somerset Schools will have to reimburse the Somerset schools for all state funding (SEEK and other funds) that the county will no longer release to follow them. Not a lot of people willing to pay that when their the kids can go to school for free in the county schools.

 

In the contract Pulaski Schools did however state they would be willing to freely accept any number of Somerset Independent Students that wished to go to the County Schools, with no limits.

 

 

Well that is certainly fair...:bunny:

Well that is certainly fair...:bunny:

 

Nice touch using the Bunny :lol2: