Don't get too caught up in polls, wasn't there just a poll before Christmas that showed Americans were much less worried about climate than they had been in the past?

The opinion conversion cited in post #29 is real. Global warming deniers are traveling the same road that Big Tobacco traveled a couple-three decades ago: Develop some industry-funded, contradictory "scientific" studies to buy some time. Meanwhile, the public eventually says, yeah, the scientific community is right.

Here's the thing. Americans have long believed that there are man-made climate influences, but since we have gigantic carbon footprints, we haven't "worried". That has started to change. Similar phenomenon in China.

And to be clear, I've never believed that climate change/global warming is completely or even predominantly man-made. But to completely shrug it off without taking any ownership or stewardship is naive at best; possibly catastrophic at worst. As I've said before, mass deforestation worries me most.

The opinion conversion cited in post #29 is real. Global warming deniers are traveling the same road that Big Tobacco traveled a couple-three decades ago: Develop some industry-funded, contradictory "scientific" studies to buy some time. Meanwhile, the public eventually says, yeah, the scientific community is right.

 

Nevertheless, the polls are showing widely at odds results between November and the poll you cited. So don't throw your heart into them.

 

Western KY coal is still rolling.

I guess he was thinking out of the box to take that. Something many conservatives cannot (no will not) do.

 

Thinking outside the box is great for technological breakthroughs or business innovations. But there is nothing innovative about government taking excessive amounts of money from a producer to give to a non-producer, who is not willing to become a producer.

Thinking outside the box is great for technological breakthroughs or business innovations. But there is nothing innovative about government taking excessive amounts of money from a producer to give to a non-producer, who is not willing to become a producer.

 

Sorry you can't see thinking out of the box for about any issue. That is how great things get accomplished.

Sorry you can't see thinking out of the box for about any issue. That is how great things get accomplished.

 

What is sorry is thinking that government has the answers. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans Affairs and now even Obamacare, all have major problems. Allowing for individual retirement accounts, individual health accounts and allowing vets to see their own doctors with government oversight, but not government run, would cure these problems. There may still need to be some aid to those truly in need.

 

I will always believe that in cases like those mentioned above will be better handled by the average American citizen.

And I think we can disavow the notion that President Obama is doing this to curry favor among EKY voters. There are more DINOs in the Commonwealth than in the Mesozoic Era.

 

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