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Hillary v. Trump .... Who Among Us Sits it Out?

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What am I supposed to do -- lie to appease you? I don't care who you vote for.

 

The big problem for Republicans ain't Hillary. If Trump wins the nomination, do you seriously think that the establishment-Jeb Bush crowd is going to support Trump in the general election? Guess again. Similarly, if someone other than Trump wins the nomination, do you seriously think that Trump's supporters are automatically going to support Rubio or Bush or Cruz? Guess again.

 

I think you will be surprised. If it's Trump or whoever, I'm thinking Obama has shoved Liberalism down the throats of the American people enough that they will vote for anyone to keep Hillary out of the White House.

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Yeah, I got schneidered pretty good. It does sound, though, that wildcat is trying to convince herself more than me that Trump is OK.

 

 

I already stated I would not vote for Trump; why would I want to convince you to?

 

 

If you haven't been paying attention to Trump's anti-female vulgarity, then you're simply under-informed. The Donald's misogynist comments prompted big headlines in all the newspapers and even led the national TV news last night. So do change the channel from HGTV or ESPN once in a while.

 

What we're likely seeing on this thread, and throughout the commonwealth, are intelligent women who know as well as everyone else that Trump is a sexist clown ... but they dare not say so because their husband, father, brother, etc. has a Trump sign on the front lawn.

 

You're kidding me, right?! Pot meet kettle.

 

How incredibly sexist of you to suggest that women today are subservient to the males in their lives and fear having independent thoughts and ideas. I really hope you aren't married and if one of the women you are speaking for is your wife, I hope she finds her voice some day.

If you seriously consider Hillary, it's because you are willing to ignore the blatant lies, FBI investigation, she is married to and supports a womanizer that makes Trump look like an amateur.

 

So don't demonize one while the other is just as bad or worse.

 

I don't want to seriously consider Hilary. In the end, though, if you ask me to choose between her and Trump, I will pick her. I don't trust her, really. I don't want to vote for her. But Trump is FAR more dangerous. If you think Obama is arrogant, and Trump is the anti-Obama, well, I don't know what to tell you. I think his brand of arrogance will alienate us among allies. I think his rhetoric will further divide us domestically. I think we are at a greater risk of outsidd threat with him at the helm.

I find his comments offensive. Why? Because they are debasing. His intent is to marginalize strong females as somehow not capable because they are female. His words and attitudes remind me of a 45 year old man I've known since he was a frat boy in college. That guy always thought he could say anything to women, treat women like crap (and he did), and he could smile and play the "I was just playin'" card with a smile and it was just the women being thin skinned. He didn't really mean anything by it.

 

Trump's comments are offensive. But those in and of themselves are only one of the symptoms of a raging egomaniac. Most troubling to me is trying to envision him in the role of diplomat. Because whether you like it or nit, the POTUS has to be able to work with the leaders of the world. Y'all say you want a Putin-like leader. Be careful what you wish for.

 

Frankly, I'm ready to write off all the people I know who are defending and supporting Trump. I'm tires of hearing how bad a choice Hilary is, while you support Trump. Neither are a good choice. So, if you want to be serious, you need to get to work finding a candidate that will appeal to those "easily offended" voters. Maybe some women aren't offended. I can think of sone reasons they aren't. But there are a lot of us who are, and it's only the icing on the cake of things we find offensive about him.

 

In the end, Trump threatens the very foundation of the American ideal. I think most people are so wound up thinking they want the extreme opposite of Obama that they're blinded.

 

Don't make me vote for Hilary.

 

I do, of course, think Trump is a clown. He just doesn't offend me. Probably because I don't take him seriously. He's no different than he's always been. I will not vote for him. Period. But I don't think it will come to that. (Fingers crossed)

I do, of course, think Trump is a clown. He just doesn't offend me. Probably because I don't take him seriously. He's no different than he's always been. I will not vote for him. Period. But I don't think it will come to that. (Fingers crossed)

 

I'm hoping not. Sincerely. I'd love for Christie to somehow be the man. He won't be. But I am listening and reading everything I can about Cruz and Rubio so I can find a reason not to vote for Hilary.

I like Rubio and Christie. Cruz is 2nd on my no list of Rs.

Do you read many of LA's posts or have you ever spoken with her ? She's fairly straightforward....

 

Yeah BB, Cat just does not know how to act like a "lady". Mr. Cat clearly has done a poor job of controlling his woman:lol2:

I don't want to seriously consider Hilary. In the end, though, if you ask me to choose between her and Trump, I will pick her. I don't trust her, really. I don't want to vote for her. But Trump is FAR more dangerous. If you think Obama is arrogant, and Trump is the anti-Obama, well, I don't know what to tell you. I think his brand of arrogance will alienate us among allies. I think his rhetoric will further divide us domestically. I think we are at a greater risk of outsidd threat with him at the helm.

 

Hillary is as dangerous, if not more so, than Trump.

 

She lies and doesn't bat an eye. She lies about dead Americans and could care less. That's just business as usual for her.

 

As far as being arrogant, he is. We are used to that after 8 years of Obama. I think our allies would welcome an American leader with a set of stones again.

 

If his rhetoric divides us domestically, it's because he tells it like it is. He's not PC and that's refreshing. I find that refreshing about Christie also.

 

Finally, if Trump wanting to close the borders puts us at greater risk of an outside threat, I don't understand that kind of logic.

 

As I have said before, I'm not a huge Trump guy. I will, however, vote for him, or any Republican over Hillary.

Hillary is as dangerous, if not more so, than Trump.

 

She lies and doesn't bat an eye. She lies about dead Americans and could care less. That's just business as usual for her.

 

As far as being arrogant, he is. We are used to that after 8 years of Obama. I think our allies would welcome an American leader with a set of stones again.

 

If his rhetoric divides us domestically, it's because he tells it like it is. He's not PC and that's refreshing. I find that refreshing about Christie also.

 

Finally, if Trump wanting to close the borders puts us at greater risk of an outside threat, I don't understand that kind of logic.

 

As I have said before, I'm not a huge Trump guy. I will, however, vote for him, or any Republican over Hillary.

 

To address the closing borders comment: That's, in my opinion, a pie-in-the-sky attempt. It's impossible to close every possible entry point into the US. And we will be more of a target than now. And we also have citizens living and working abroad that we should be concerned about.

 

I honestly don't think Trump has "stones". I think he doesn't have a clue. He's all puff and bravado, which is easy to do if you don't have a clue.

If you haven't been paying attention to Trump's anti-female vulgarity, then you're simply under-informed. The Donald's misogynist comments prompted big headlines in all the newspapers and even led the national TV news last night. So do change the channel from HGTV or ESPN once in a while.

 

What we're likely seeing on this thread, and throughout the commonwealth, are intelligent women who know as well as everyone else that Trump is a sexist clown ... but they dare not say so because their husband, father, brother, etc. has a Trump sign on the front lawn.

 

So you're saying that KY women are to timid or to stupid to form their own opinion. No misogyny there.

So you're saying that KY women are to timid or to stupid to form their own opinion. No misogyny there.

I think you're on to something, All Tell. How else does one explain the hesitancy of intelligent women to criticize Trump's misogyny other than timidity. A lot of

this timidity has to do with posters not wishing to "show up" the right-wing friends they met a month ago at the most recent BGP get-together.

I think you're on to something, All Tell. How else does one explain the hesitancy of intelligent women to criticize Trump's misogyny other than timidity. A lot of

this timidity has to do with posters not wishing to "show up" the right-wing friends they met a month ago at the most recent BGP get-together.

 

There you have it TTP doesn't think KY women have enough gumption or intelligence to make up their own minds.

I find his comments offensive. Why? Because they are debasing. His intent is to marginalize strong females as somehow not capable because they are female. His words and attitudes remind me of a 45 year old man I've known since he was a frat boy in college. That guy always thought he could say anything to women, treat women like crap (and he did), and he could smile and play the "I was just playin'" card with a smile and it was just the women being thin skinned. He didn't really mean anything by it.

 

Trump's comments are offensive. But those in and of themselves are only one of the symptoms of a raging egomaniac. Most troubling to me is trying to envision him in the role of diplomat. Because whether you like it or not, the POTUS has to be able to work with the leaders of the world. Y'all say you want a Putin-like leader. Be careful what you wish for.

 

Frankly, I'm ready to write off all the people I know who are defending and supporting Trump. I'm tired of hearing how bad a choice Hilary is, while you support Trump. Neither are a good choice. So, if you want to be serious, you need to get to work finding a candidate that will appeal to those "easily offended" voters. Maybe some women aren't offended. I can think of some reasons they aren't. But there are a lot of us who are, and it's only the icing on the cake of things we find offensive about him.

 

In the end, Trump threatens the very foundation of the American ideal. I think most people are so wound up thinking they want the extreme opposite of Obama that they're blinded.

 

Don't make me vote for Hilary.

 

Feel free to be offended but don't be offended when others are not.

 

As to the bolded, simply hyperbole. We've heard it before.

Feel free to be offended but don't be offended when others are not.

 

As to the bolded, simply hyperbole. We've heard it before.

 

I'm not offended that others aren't. I believe I even stated in my post I can understand some reasons some women aren't.

 

...yep...scrolled back up. I said that.

 

As for the last part you bolded, I truly believe he does. I'm sure most on BGP disagree. No...I know they do. But, if you consider that hyperbole, I'm sure you can understand why people like myself consider the rhetoric about AHCA and Obama's views on gun control hyperbole.

Hillary attacked and villified all of the women who had the guts to stand up and say that they had been raped by her husband. She enabled him to carry on that behavior for many years. She stood by as he exerted his authority and power to take advantage of and sexually abuse a girl barely out of her teens. Yep, she is a wonderful person. A vote for Hillary is a vote of support for this ethical standard.

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