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Where does Reds Offense Rank in NL?

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Out of 15 NL teams:

 

Avg 11th

2B 12th

3B 10th

HRs 6th

Runs 9th

RBIs 9th

SBs 1st

SAC 9th

SAC F 7th

OBP 8th

SLG 7th

OPS 7th

BB 4th

Ks 12th

GIDP 13th

 

Any surprises? I would have thought they would be much higher in Ks (with Bruce) and GIDP (with Frazier). Would have thought they would be higher in 2B playing in GAPB.

Without Joey Votto those numbers would be so, so ugly.

9 of those categories we are 9 or worse, ouch.. 12th in K's... If you were to take Votto out of that line up we would be 15th in a lot of categories. He is having a monster year.

Curious on the K's (and GIDP's)...so, is this saying that there's only 3 teams that have struck out more? In the other categories, you'd want a higher number (rank)...but, in those two particular ones, wouldn't you want to have the lower numbers?

Reds are last in MLB in runners left in scoring position per game.

Seattle Mariners are next to last in MLB in RISP at .232.

 

Reds are at .220 .

 

2-out RISP is .192 which is also last.

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Curious on the K's (and GIDP's)...so, is this saying that there's only 3 teams that have struck out more? In the other categories, you'd want a higher number (rank)...but, in those two particular ones, wouldn't you want to have the lower numbers?

 

Correct. The Reds are 12th in the number of Ks. Meaning there are 11 teams that have struck out more than the Reds.

Correct. The Reds are 12th in the number of Ks. Meaning there are 11 teams that have struck out more than the Reds.

 

Is that true? I always thought meant there are 11 teams who have struck out less than the Reds.

Is that true? I always thought meant there are 11 teams who have struck out less than the Reds.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering.

 

On a side note, with regards to the K's...Votto has struck out nearly twice as much as Phillips. Never would've figured there would've been that much disparity.

Seattle Mariners are next to last in MLB in RISP at .232. Reds are at .220 . 2-out RISP is .192 which is also last.

 

Has been a major issue for several years.

Based on these numbers it seems like the Reds are pretty much a middle of the road offensive team.

Give you a quick example of what I am talking about with the big 3, that being Hamilton, Bruce and Frazier. Last night against Cardinals first inning, I know, I know I am still watching them. Votto and Phillips on second and third, that has happened a lot this year. Phillips who people on here say trade, is batting around 290, and 300 with RISP, Votto batting 317 and around 300 with RISP. Guess what clowns are up next, your 2 boys who will hit 30-40 meaningless HR's and not crack a 100 RBI. They strikeout as always, and we get 1 run out of the deal thanks to Phillips. We lose 2-1, and never threaten again, been the Reds deal for the last 4 years. Trade Frazier and Bruce, find guys that get on base, with our young pitching coming up and lots of arms to deal we could re-do this organization the right way. Get the right manager in there and in 2-3 years we could turn the page.

Out of 15 NL teams:

 

Avg 11th

2B 12th

3B 10th

HRs 6th

Runs 9th

RBIs 9th

SBs 1st

SAC 9th

SAC F 7th

OBP 8th

SLG 7th

OPS 7th

BB 4th

Ks 12th

GIDP 13th

 

Any surprises? I would have thought they would be much higher in Ks (with Bruce) and GIDP (with Frazier). Would have thought they would be higher in 2B playing in GAPB.

 

Correct. The Reds are 12th in the number of Ks. Meaning there are 11 teams that have struck out more than the Reds.

 

Very true, and honestly they are in 12th by a good margin. Just goes to show perception is not always reality. It seems like a lot of strike outs because we see the majority of Reds games, we don't see all these other teams. The Cubs for example have struck out I believe 200 more times than the Reds. The Reds biggest problem as others have mentioned is not getting the hits when it matters most, and that is when people are in scoring position.

Give you a quick example of what I am talking about with the big 3, that being Hamilton, Bruce and Frazier. Last night against Cardinals first inning, I know, I know I am still watching them. Votto and Phillips on second and third, that has happened a lot this year. Phillips who people on here say trade, is batting around 290, and 300 with RISP, Votto batting 317 and around 300 with RISP. Guess what clowns are up next, your 2 boys who will hit 30-40 meaningless HR's and not crack a 100 RBI. They strikeout as always, and we get 1 run out of the deal thanks to Phillips. We lose 2-1, and never threaten again, been the Reds deal for the last 4 years. Trade Frazier and Bruce, find guys that get on base, with our young pitching coming up and lots of arms to deal we could re-do this organization the right way. Get the right manager in there and in 2-3 years we could turn the page.

 

You lost me at having Hamilton the "big 3."

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