On Wednesday, Judge Doty heard oral arguments in the NFLPA’s request for a finding that the league and Goodell are in contempt of court by failing to act in response to Judge Doty’s order vacating the Adrian Peterson suspension. The union contends that the league merely waited for Peterson’s suspension to end under its original terms, taking no action to reconsider the punishment in the wake of the decision that the league applied the new Personal Conduct Policy retroactively to Peterson and deferring to the effort to appeal Judge Doty’s decision to a higher court.

 

“I’m not sure the Commissioner understands there is a CBA,” Judge Doty said in open court, via Tom Pelissero of USA Today.

 

At one point, Judge Doty asked NFLPA outside counsel Jeffrey Kessler whether the union wants a My Cousin Vinny-style punishment for Goodell.

 

“Jail time – is that what you want?” Doty asked Kessler. “Do you want us to put the Commissioner in jail?”

 

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More evidence Goodell needs to go. Of course, even if Goodell goes it won't matter unless the NFL Owners decide to treat the players correctly moving forward.

 

And one thing is for sure, the NFLPA has A LOT of work to do next time around. They need to forget money next time around and go all in for players rights.

More evidence Goodell needs to go. Of course' date=' even if Goodell goes it won't matter unless the NFL Owners decide to treat the players correctly moving forward. And one thing is for sure, the NFLPA has A LOT of work to do next time around. They need to forget money next time around and go all in for players rights.[/quote']

 

Do you think we are looking at an even more lengthy lockout next time? To the point where there could be games missed?

Do you think we are looking at an even more lengthy lockout next time? To the point where there could be games missed?

 

I doubt it, too much money lost on both sides and too much damage can be done to the game by locking out too long. But so much will go on between now and then who knows...

Doty may not be wrapped too tight as well.

More evidence Goodell needs to go. Of course, even if Goodell goes it won't matter unless the NFL Owners decide to treat the players correctly moving forward.

 

And one thing is for sure, the NFLPA has A LOT of work to do next time around. They need to forget money next time around and go all in for players rights.

 

The hard part with forgetting the money is that the money affects each player in the league. Player's rights only affects the ones that get in trouble. It's a delicate balance in which the owners have all of the leverage.

The hard part with forgetting the money is that the money affects each player in the league. Player's rights only affects the ones that get in trouble. It's a delicate balance in which the owners have all of the leverage.

 

Could not have said it better myself PP92. Money affects the 1,600+ players in the league. The players' right issues affects less than 100...heck, maybe less than 20.

The hard part with forgetting the money is that the money affects each player in the league. Player's rights only affects the ones that get in trouble. It's a delicate balance in which the owners have all of the leverage.

bingo. Most players arent choosing this over money because most of them won't ever have to worry about the conduct policy.

I hear and agree with all of you but with the NFL singling out Tom Brady, and I believe he is being singled out for doing something that several teams/QBs do, it makes me rethink my position.

I hear and agree with all of you but with the NFL singling out Tom Brady, and I believe he is being singled out for doing something that several teams/QBs do, it makes me rethink my position.

 

That's the balance. If they are going after Brady like this over some air in a football then no player in the league is safe from Goodell's power. I lean towards making sure that even the practice squad guys get their money for their sacrifice but I understand what you are saying.

Ironic that a federal judge might send the commish to jail after all of his crazy suspension info.

Not much of a shock coming from Doty who is anti-Goodell.

I find it hard for anyone but owners to be pro Goodell. He preachers players safety, yet he has continuously tried to stretch the schedule which will without a doubt increase the number of injuries in the league. I am offensive guy to the max, but under Goodell the league has removed so much of the ability to play defense that I have a hard time even watching the NFL because it barely resembles football due to the lack of defense allowed. Goodell relentlessly goes after defensive players with fines after fines, yet never penalizes offensive players for targeting or any of the other bogus rules that have been added.

 

No one is safe from the reach and wrath of money hungry power hungry Goodell, I swear I feel like he is try to ruin the NFL. If you look at the decline in number of pop warner and high school football across the nation during his tenure its alarming and there is a direct correlation to the concussion scare tactics that Goodell as implemented over concussion is dangerous hits.

In order to hate Goodell you have to understand that he works for the owners, not the players. His job is to make as much $ as he can for the team owners. If that includes making himself look silly to draw more eyes to the league, so be it. Not something other commish's would have done but right up this guys alley.

 

I see him as a more lame Vince McMahon from the old WWF. Any publicity is good publicity and willing to do whatever it takes to get viewers in front of the screens or clicks.

Bengal Player and NFLPA president Eric Winston summed things up well:

 

“I don’t want to keep pointing fingers at the league office, but that’s really what it is in the sense of running these rogue investigations that are clearly against the CBA,” Winston said, via USA Today. “An ex-commissioner has said so. Federal judges have said so. Arbitrators have said so. A lot of people can say, ‘Oh, well that’s just a partisan union hack.’ But don’t take my word for it. Take their word for it. Take federal judge David Doty recently questioning whether they know what the CBA says, because it’s clear to everybody but them that they’re not following it.”

 

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