halfback20 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 It wasn't too long ago that we had a thread about NYC requiring their officers' IQ's to be under a certain level' date=' right?[/quote'] I don't think that is true. I believe one police department 20 years ago won a lawsuit that said they didn't have to hire someone because their IQ was above a certain mark. The title of the article that went around was very misleading, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I don't think that is true. I believe one police department 20 years ago won a lawsuit that said they didn't have to hire someone because their IQ was above a certain mark. The title of the article that went around was very misleading, if I remember correctly. It was somewhere up in the northeast if I remember. The article had some good points but the world is changing rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAC Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Not sure of exact numbers but I remember seeing where Newport officers were very low paid and Fort Thomas officers were the highest paid in Campbell County. Always thought it should have been reversed do to levels of crime in the 2 areas. I'm wondering if education level is reflected in the highering procedures of the 2 departments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 Court said it was ok to not hire someone because of a high IQ to prevent turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 It was somewhere up in the northeast if I remember. The article had some good points but the world is changing rapidly. Posted it below. Doesn't say anything about the department having a requirement against it. And it's not like it's a policy across the board for police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I don't really like the blanket requirement that you must have a 4 year degree. If you have some other type of training that could make you qualified a 4 year degree shouldn't be the deal breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpapa Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I will say it again, in the big picture most police officers are nothing more than pawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIPTON BASH Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't understand what a 4 year degree would do for a regular officer unless we make it a major ? Like Clyde said that study is skewed based on raw numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwoodfan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Good thread. Police officers are underpaid especially considering the risks they take every day. Given the difficult job they have, a higher education level and training would be the obvious preference. If such a requirement was made, would people still be attracted to the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If not a 4 year college degree maybe a Technical Degree where the entire focus of study was on the profession. Hours spent in Microeconomics or college level algebra might not be the best time spent educating law enforcement officers. I'd prefer courses in case law and legal precedent over random mandatory college classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If it came to that, yes. But I don't think it would have to come to that. So how are you going to pay them? National Average may be $54000 or whatever but a lot of entry level positions pay half that not including benefits. That's why almost every police officer you know has an extra job or part time job on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIPTON BASH Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 So how are you going to pay them? National Average may be $54000 or whatever but a lot of entry level positions pay half that not including benefits. That's why almost every police officer you know has an extra job or part time job on the side. To be fair so do most college graduates in a entry level position that want a better life. I bartended and worked my day job until I got promoted to a level that allowed me to work one job. That is why I never feel sorry for people who ever talk about a livable wage working one job. Most entry level positions aren't . So you work more than one job and get ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 To be fair so do most college graduates in a entry level position that want a better life. I bartended and worked my day job until I got promoted to a level that allowed me to work one job. That is why I never feel sorry for people who ever talk about a livable wage working one job. Most entry level positions aren't . So you work more than one job and get ahead. True, I was just pointing out that the National Average includes a lot of metro officers across the country make large cash compared to officers in most communities in Kentucky and other states...and if they are to get these raises for college wondering where is the money going to come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear the Nation Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If I have get a four year degree for employment its not going to be in a field I get shot at. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kypride Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Police are one of the few things that i'm willing to raise taxes for. Yes require a 4 year degree and yes raise taxes to make the job pay enough for 4 year graduates to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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