There in lies the problem with society today.

 

Everyone should always take personal responsibility for their choices. This includes the trafficker that chooses to sell drugs.

 

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

Maybe I misunderstood your question. With the current laws, does the trafficker have responsibility in the selling of the drugs? Absolutely.

 

I was under the impression you were asking if the trafficker bears any responsibility if a user dies from an overdose of the drugs. To me, the answer to that is no.

Its not all on drug user.

 

Yes, it is. While I agree with you that delivering the substances is obviously bad, it is still up to the user to take the drugs, and over do it.

Yes, it is. While I agree with you that delivering the substances is obviously bad, it is still up to the user to take the drugs, and over do it.

 

so no one else should be blamed?

I believe one of the 22 is from KY

I believe one of the 22 is from KY

Francis Darrell Hayden of Loretto, KY.

 

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Come to work with me and see the devastating affect of drugs on society. The courts do everything they can to keep traffickers and users out of jail. Multiple trips to rehab, for both the trafficker and user. How many opportunities is a person supposed to get to stay out of jail?

 

Somewhere along the line, you have to pay for your crime.

Maybe I misunderstood your question. With the current laws, does the trafficker have responsibility in the selling of the drugs? Absolutely.

 

I was under the impression you were asking if the trafficker bears any responsibility if a user dies from an overdose of the drugs. To me, the answer to that is no.

 

IMHO the trafficker does bear some responsibility. No one forces the user to buy it, I agree. On the same note, said user must get it from someone. If there were no traffickers, where will he get it?

IMHO the trafficker does bear some responsibility. No one forces the user to buy it, I agree. On the same note, said user must get it from someone. If there were no traffickers, where will he get it?

 

Along those lines is Budweiser responsible in some way anytime a person gets a DUI?

Along those lines is Budweiser responsible in some way anytime a person gets a DUI?

 

No, but a bartender can be charged if he doesn't cut someone off and they cause an accident.

Come to work with me and see the devastating affect of drugs on society. The courts do everything they can to keep traffickers and users out of jail.Multiple trips to rehab, for both the trafficker and user. How many opportunities is a person supposed to get to stay out of jail? The courts do everything they can to keep traffickers and users out of jail.

 

Somewhere along the line, you have to pay for your crime.

 

I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I have someone close to me who screwed up, got caught, 1st time offender - got sent straight to jail. Do not pass go; do not collect $200. Now he is a 21 year old felon who has to pay for that 1 mistake for the rest of his life.

No, but a bartender can be charged if he doesn't cut someone off and they cause an accident.

 

But the bartender had to get the alcohol from somewhere. If Budwesier (or the like) isn't there, where does the bartender and subsequent customer get it from?

I got a friend that got caught growing 500 pot plants and they were about 6 inches tall and got over 25yrs in prison.

I'm talking about the laws that make me jump through hoops to get Claritin D. I got pilloried on here once for expressing my displeasure with them because they were intended to help control the scourge of Meth. From my perspective all it seems to have done is make it harder and more expensive for me to get a medication that I like and turned a percentage of Meth users into Heroin users. And I still seem to hear lots of stories about Meth labs being discovered. So the only people those laws seem to have affected are law abiding people.

 

Sounds awfully similar to gun control i.e. criminals are affected very little, law abiding citizens have their rights limited in the mean time.

 

I was against the law/regulation All Tell is referring to but did hope it would work to some degree making the production of Meth more difficult. Instead, drug users have moved to Heroin which seems to now be the hard core drug of choice whereas Meth has fallen out of favor. Either way, I hope the law is overturned.

I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I have someone close to me who screwed up, got caught, 1st time offender - got sent straight to jail. Do not pass go; do not collect $200. Now he is a 21 year old felon who has to pay for that 1 mistake for the rest of his life.

 

That happens sometimes. What class of felony was it? If it was a C or above, it's very difficult to get those amended to a misdemeanor.

I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I have someone close to me who screwed up, got caught, 1st time offender - got sent straight to jail. Do not pass go; do not collect $200. Now he is a 21 year old felon who has to pay for that 1 mistake for the rest of his life.

Key word there is Felon, most of the people in court on a day in day out basis are the ones arrested for misdemeanor drug charges. They do get chances over and over and help that they need. If you do something that skips misdemeanor and is a felony then in a lot of cases you do pay with jail time.

 

Our local "Drug Court" has been pretty successful helping those that really want help. In fact one of our judges was just up in NKY talking about the success he's had down here dealing with those on Heroine. But even Drug Court and rehab can't help everyone, because many don't want the help. Unfortunately the only thing left when the repeatedly break the law is Jail.